KG 02 - See comments inline. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 09/25/2012 09:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote: > >> KG01 - See comments inline >> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>> >>> Should we have a webdev list? >>>> >>> >>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year. >>> >>> >>>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project. I >>>> am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the work on >>>> redesign start growing. >>>> >>> >>> Generally everything should be here. >>> >>> KG01 - agreed >> >> >>> >>>> Some suggestions on the design of the site: >>>> - Show the product, currently there is nothing visual that relates the >>>> software with office productivity. >>>> >>> >>> >>> KG01 - I think we should focus on content before we worry about styling >> or >> visual design. Please create a wiki page on cwiki to capture the proposed >> enhancements. >> > > OK, wiki page done...please see > > https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/x/WwPVAQ<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/WwPVAQ> > > post comments, add items, etc... > > I didn't propose anything just raised some questions, and provided a > marked up version of the home page with locational areas. > > KG02 - Good stuff. Thanks for getting this going. > > > > > > Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a design >> contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using the CMS. >> >> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind with >> the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the headers and >> footers. >> >> - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have >>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site could >>> help our users browse through the site. >>> >> >> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css tags >> in device specific css files that can then be varied according to the >> dimensions of the browser. >> >> - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their own >>> theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like the >>> templates/extension/wiki site. >>> >> >> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be ported by >> the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is harder. I'm sure >> that SF can follow as well. >> >> - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in frameworks >>> (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects. >>> >> >> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> >> >>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us to >>>>>> >>>>> consider >> >>> a >>>>>> slight update to the user portal web site -- >>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- >>>>>> for this momentous occasion. >>>>>> >>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test" directory, and >>>>>> >>>>> updated >>>>> >>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal with >>>>>> >>>>> horizontal >>>>> >>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present graphic >>>>>> >>>>> mockups of >>>>> >>>>>> ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> > KG01 - Yes, good idea. Actually, UX is setting up a virtual studio to show > sketches, mockups and screen caps of ideas. > > > >>>>> Good topic to bring up. >>>>> >>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two websites. >>>>> www.openoffice.org, of course. But also our project website, which >>>>> will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The mailing lists will also >>>>> update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o --> d...@openoffice.apache.org. Our >>>>> subversion tree changes as well. Ditto for Apache dist directory. >>>>> >>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator" >>>>> disclaimer and references. There was talk at one point about >>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well. >>>>> >>>> >> > KG01 - Short term re-branding could remove the "incubation" reference. More > broadly, we should style the site to reflect any updates to our branding. > > > >>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory >>>>> references. There may be others. This is pretty much a search & >>>>> replace operation. >>>>> >>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI. IMHO it is always a good >>>>> time to improve the website ;-) >>>>> >>>> >> > KG01 - Long term UI refresh, should be associated with any enhancement to > our brand moving foward. 4.0 presents an opportunity to launch such a > re-branding. > > KG01 - Who can lead a re-branding effort? Marketing? PMC? Thoughts? > > >>>> >>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font on the >>>> website. Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's website, which uses >>>> OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License): >>>> >>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/ >>>> >>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans >>>> >>>> > KG01 - Agree, nice font. Very legible onscreen. > > > > To me this is much more legible than our current font (Liberation?) >>>> >>>> >>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we >>> >> graduate, > >> and I thought we were planning on using the area where we have the Apache >>> incubator icon for something else but I'd need to go look that up. >>> >>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we had much >>> of anything specified. hmmmm.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we can do. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> MzK >>>>> >>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back >>>>> doesn't mean the circus has left town." >>>>> -- George Carlin >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> MzK >>> >>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back >>> doesn't mean the circus has left town." >>> -- George Carlin >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >> http://es.openoffice.org >> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MzK "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town." -- George Carlin
