Hi Bruce,

On 13.03.2016 20:31, CVBruce wrote:
> Are you able to get around the rexx.cat by coding an NLSPATH in the 
> environment?  So we would need
> PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and NLSPATH.
If possible I would not want to change too much in the login scripts (I do that 
currently for
CLASSPATH).

>From my manual tests  MacOSX 10.11 resolves /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib 
>so PATH does not have
to be changed and LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not needed. Ad NLSPATH: it is not defined 
on MacOSX (and Linux)
by default it seems, at least not via an environment variable. Therefore a 
solution that does
without NLSPATH (which also would need the environment variable LANG be 
defined, which is not
defined on MacOSX) would be preferabel (falling back to /usr/local/bin, if not 
found on NLSPATH).

> As to opening a bug, seems like the right thing to do. 
Will do.

---rony

>
>> On Mar 13, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Rony G. Flatscher <rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at
>> <mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> you are the best!
>> :)
>>
>> Thanks to your findings I got a few ideas to test (copied the quarantined 
>> /usr/bin and /usr/lib
>> entries to /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib). Can run the ooRexx 
>> interpreter again. There is a
>> problem still with dynamic loading the BSF4ooRexx dynalib from Java's 
>> java.library.path, will
>> have to check on that. (As it is night over here, I will have to go and 
>> analyze this further ASAP.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> However, there might be a little problem with ooRexx' code to locate 
>> rexx.cat, it seems ooRexx
>> looks in "/usr/bin" only, judging from the error message: "97 Cannot open 
>> REXX message catalog
>> rexx.cat. Not in NLSPATH or /usr/bin". 
>>
>> In the light of Apple's move (non system binaries and libraries need to go 
>> into "/usr/local"
>> starting with 10.11, "El Capitan"), should I open a bug report for ooRexx 
>> for that particular
>> error on MacOSX?
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13.03.2016 18:38, CVBruce wrote:
>>> Later it says:
>>> "Scripting Languages
>>>
>>>     Developers using Perl, Python, Ruby, or any other scripting languages 
>>> that ship with OS X,
>>>     are encouraged to manage their own installations of the language and 
>>> dependencies
>>>     in /usr/local/. When distributing programs written with a scripting 
>>> language, developers are
>>>     encouraged to bundle the language runtime and any required components 
>>> into a self-contained
>>>     binary.”
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know that “self-contained binary” is compatible with the 
>>> architecture of ooRexx.  On the
>>> other hand, a bundle (which can be many files in a directory structure) may 
>>> be.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rony G. Flatscher <rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at
>>>> <mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not having worked much on Apple lately, I was informed by students who 
>>>> tried to install ooRexx for
>>>> MacOSX by installing BSF4ooRexx for MacOSX, that the installation does not 
>>>> work "all of a sudden"!
>>>>
>>>> Exploring this problem a little bit, it turned out that students having 
>>>> MacOSX prior to "El
>>>> Capitan"
>>>> (MacOSX (10.11)) installed have no problems whatsoever. So the culprit 
>>>> seems to be the latest
>>>> MacOSX, 10.11.
>>>>
>>>> One student reported the same problem using a "pure" ooRexx installation 
>>>> from Sourceforge!
>>>>
>>>> Inspecting my Apple having the latest upgrade and path (MacOSX 10.11.3) 
>>>> installed it turns out that
>>>> the previously installed and functioning BSF4ooRexx was rendered useless 
>>>> in the meantime, the
>>>> oorexx
>>>> symbolic links to binaries and libraries (all residing in "/usr/bin", 
>>>> "/usr/lib" and even
>>>> "/usr/include") have been moved to some
>>>> "/Library/SystemMigration/History/Migration-some-UUID-value/QuarantineRoot"!
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> As spooky as this seems (an operating system update regarding installed, 
>>>> working applications as
>>>> malware somehow, acting such that rendering it useless) the problem needs 
>>>> to be fixed, if possible
>>>> at all, ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> On either developer list (oorexx and bsf4oorexx) there have been 
>>>> developers showin up who have had
>>>> experiences developing on the Apple platform.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is, does anyone have any ideas what this causes and what a 
>>>> possible remedy would be
>>>> for it? Possibly anyone who might have been able to re-install ooRexx or 
>>>> BSF4ooRexx on El Capitan,
>>>> and if so, how?
>>>>
>>>> Thankful for any idea, hint and link!
>>>>
>>>> ---rony
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: Yes, I googled already, but somehow have not been able to get 
>>>> answers that would help. One
>>>> remark was to the effect to deal with the ElCapitan "No-Tresspassing" tag, 
>>>> without explaining what
>>>> this was meaning and where to find documentation about it.
>>>>
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