On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 21:17 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Firstly: no, I haven't been to university yet. Yes, I have been > writing HDL full time and being paid for it for a few months now. No, > I don't know Verilog. That's because I've been working in a company > where VHDL is the standard. > > I suspect there are a number of people lurking on this list who > perhaps are very interested in HDL programming, but haven't had any > motivation to learn Verilog or VHDL because there haven't been any > affordable platforms to fiddle with it on, and very little example > code to learn from (believe my, I've been struggling with this problem > myself). > > It's a chicken and egg problem. A community of hackers around the OGL > as a configurable logic platform *should* gradually gain momentum, by > providing the resources needed for newcomers to learn the ropes and > try out their skills.
Right. However, there is still at least one open problem - the unavailability of good free tools (the Xilinx Webpack nonwithstanding). > Of course, if people like yourself are going to maintain such a > negative attitude you'll scare off all of the "experienced HDL > hackers". A self-fulfilling prophecy, perhaps. True. However, Daniel used it as an argument and I couldn't let that stand as such. Hoping that there will in some undetermined future someone who might be .... and so on and so on is simply too unreliable. The point is that _right now_ there are few people able to hack on Verilog code on this list and if they have to wait a couple months longer it's just not that much of a loss. Compare this to: Opening up the Verilog code, twenty people will immediately jump forward and start hacking on it until the first devel version works - in two weeks (with no documentation or testbench :o). Also, I was under the impression that all the Verilog code would be closed - which as Timothy already said is not true. Quote: > There are the PCI and VGA controllers, which are being developed under > LGPL, that people can contribute to. Cheers, -- Ulf > Peter
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