On Sunday 30 July 2006 09:25, Dieter wrote:
> > You've taken the words out of mouth.  The OGC1 is going to be designed
> > and marketed to be a general-purpose graphics card, to compete in a field
> > that is dominated by nVidia and ATi.  In order to succeed well enough to
> > be able to create an OGC1.1, OGC2 or whatever, we need to sell lots of
> > them and make lots of money. 
>
> A general-purpose card to compete against nVidia and ATi?  Are you serious?
>

Yes.  IIRC, the fields the OGC1 wishes to market to are:

 - Straightforward 2D & 3D graphics for business/home office use and low-end
   gaming
 - PCI graphics cards for dual/triple head setups

These fields are, or were the last time I checked, dominated by the cheaper 
nVidia and ATi cards. Please let me know if this is not correct: I have an 
entire teaching laboratory full of Linux workstations with low-end nVidia 
cards in them that says otherwise.

I use high-end fully 3D CAD programs on a day-to-day basis (ProEngineer) and 
they certainly don't do anything that needs fancy features such as 
programmable shaders and multi-level-texturing.  The OGA spec seems ideally 
suited to them.

If the OGC1 had been around three years ago, all those teaching boxes would 
have had OGC1 PCI cards in them.

> And support for serious monitors is now in question.

No, it will support the monitors perfectly, once you've programmed the PROM 
only to use the timing your fixed-frequency monitors require.  Are you 
seriously saying that you don't know _anywhere_ you can borrow a normal 
monitor for half an hour?

> > Putting things like jumpers on a board cost money.  Each jumper will
> > increase the cost of each board by about £1
>
> I wasn't suggesting that the pins need to be lovingly installed by Swiss
> watchmakers.  If a pin costs a pound the rest of the board must cost
> thousands.

Neither was I, although I was probably exaggerating the cost increase slightly 
to make my point.  Looking at current pricing, it would be somewhere between 
£0.50 and £1.00, including stocking, placement, and quality control.  For a 
single header.  How many jumpers did you need, again?

Peter

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