We probably need to create a separate license for any trademarks we register.
"You may use this trademark without fee if you..."


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From: Petter Urkedal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 2006-11-24, Hamie wrote:
> > 3. Somewhere between... Where does closed firmware come into it? If the HDL 
> > is 
> > available, and the driver is available, what if most of the value add are 
> > in 
> > closed source firmware? Should a vendor be able to take open source 
> > hardware, 
> > add closed source firmware & use open source software for the driver?
> 
> Before I address the real question, we must make sure there is a minimum
> quality of the provided HDL.  The GPL requires that the provided sources
> are the preferred form for editing (rather than generated code), which
> guarantees they are no less obscure than when the authors can cope with.
> This given, if HDL is available, then the hardware is at least useful to
> the FOSS community, even if it might take significant work to make it
> useful to end users.  I think the question is essentially the same as
> the case when most of the value add is in the drivers.
> 
> I think the issue of closed firmware value add boils down to how the
> product is marketed.  We might require that when the OHF mark is used,
> then the company must distinguish the features provided by the hardware
> from those added by any proprietary firmware and drivers.  That is, when
> OHF mark is used in marketing, the marketing must be fair with respect
> to the OHF mark.  Otherwise would be misleading advertising.  Once the
> FOSS community has created a firmware/software stack, the implied
> features can be advertised along with the OHF mark.  In practise this
> could be done by requiring that a statement is placed next to the logo
> with information where to find the alternative feature-set.
> 
> > 4. Should the OHF define multiple levels of open? Or just one? 
> 
> Sounds like a good idea.  The marks should look similar to establish OHF
> brand recognition, but with clearly distinct features indicating the
> level of openness.
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