Lourens Veen wrote:

While some work is needed to rationalize the current mess, I don't
think that too much of the graphics system should be in the Kernel.
Currently, X11 can crash and not affect the Kernel at all.  This
shouldn't change -- a new graphics system shouldn't pull the Kernel
down with it if (make that when since graphics is much less stable
than the Kernel) it crashes, the Kernel must survive the crash.

Does it really matter all that much? If (when) my X hangs, I have to reboot the system to get the system back to a usable (i.e. with a GUI, this is a desktop workstation) state, even if the kernel is still running and I can still access the system over the network. Unless the kernel can clean up after X and put the hardware back into a workable state.

Lourens

It makes a huge difference for debugging. If the kernel is till running it's much easier to get some useful logs and other debugginf info about the problem.

Philipp
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