On 10/21/07, Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:19:47 -0400
> "Timothy Normand Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > If you want to help out and look for bugs, I would suggest starting
> > with the TV-out on page 15 of the schematic.  (Note that the page
> > numbers are not in ascending order.)  This is the least-tested part of
> > the design and is therefore the likeliest to have a problem.
>
> Some preliminary feedback from a first quick look:
>> Sheet 1:
>
> Is there a special reason to use U14 instead of connecting
> REQ64 and REQ64_BE directly to the XP10?
>

We have seen non-compliances  on 1 or 2  machines fitted
with 32 bit connectors. In these cases, the REQ64 signal was
pulled low at PCI reset time, even though the interface was
only 32-bit. This would create confusion for any PCI logic that happens
to support 64 bit accesses. The bus-switch circuit ensures that
 the REQ64 signal is pulled high when the card is installed in a
32 bit slot.


> Sheet 3&6:
>
> I think an additional 10uF X5R for each power rail of each
> FPGA is justified, maybe even more.
>

I think so too, but its near impossible to get the caps
close enough to the FPGA to do any good. What we have
here is what the layout of the V1 card would permit.


> Sheet 7&8:
>
> Isn't V_ref supposed to be generated at a central point?
> The way it is generated here does certainly work, but we'll
> get just with 9 different values for V_ref. And the resistors
> have to be 1% types instead of 5% types.

Vref is not that sensitive. It just helps layout a bit having them
distributed.
>
> I would also additionally place a 1uF X5R/X7R near each DRAM module.
> I once had a problem with ground bounces at DRAM chips and it
> was a hell to debug...
>
> Sheet 13:
>
> I guess pin 93 and 94 are the two stress releave pads.
> If so, i would connect them to ground too, as the connector
> seems to have some kind of shielding anyways, even without
> additional ground plate
>
> Sheet 15:
>
> Shouldn't the clamping diodes D5 and D6 be on the other side
> of the inductor, ie directly at the connector?


Yes, its strange. But I checked the Conexant schematic,
and we've copied it correctly. I guess it's more important
to protect the IC rather that the passives.


>
> Sheet 16-18:
>
> The datahseet of the MAX8578 recomends an 47uF capacitor with
> an ESR of 5mR for output (optionaly a second one of it), but the 22uF
> specified capacitors have each an ESR of 1mR, resulting in a total
> ESR of 0.25R (factor 10 below recomended). Are you sure that the
> control loop of the MAX8578 is still stable with such a low ESR?

We originally had 2 caps on thee V1 board, and the ESR  wasn't
good enough ! We got a lot of ripple that caused excessive dissipation
in the inductor, hence the 4 caps that we use now.


>
> Also you put in three times the same inductor. Do all calculations
> lead to the same inductance or has this been done for cost reasons?


Cost and laziness.

>
>                                 Attila Kinali
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