I've been weighing whether or not I had anything to add to this discussion or not. I've deleted several drafts, but finally I have something. It's this. I agree with Kathy. There are enough different people with different preferences for communications. I've never joined the admin list because I wasn't really sure if it was for library admin (I'm that) or system admin (I'm not that).
My question is - does it hurt anything to have it no matter how active/inactive it is? Does it cost anything? Create any headaches? Offend anyone's sensibilities? Strike those last two. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Kathy Lussier <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > What I would hate to see is an IRC vs. email discussion. > > The fact is, when people are asking for help, they're going to gravitate > to the medium they are comfortable with. We get questions for help in IRC, > on the mailing lists, and sometimes even in Launchpad questions or on the > Evergreen Facebook page. > > The important thing is that we steer people, no matter what their > preference, to the place where their questions are likely to be answered, > and then that we do our best to help them out if we are able. > > +1 to the idea of making the dev list a "technical" discussion list to > handle development, sys admin, or any other technical discussions. > > Kathy > > > > > On 01/15/2015 01:31 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich wrote: > >> On 2015-01-14, at 14:18 , Michael Peters <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Just my 2 cents, but I've always felt IRC was the best place to reach >>> other >>> sys-admins for advice. I can't recall ever posting to the mailing list >>> about a system administration issue. I know there are so many active >>> sys-admins on the IRC that I think the response is likely to be quicker >>> there. >>> >>> I'm also more apt to answer a question I see in IRC. I'm not sure I'm >>> even >>> subscribed to anything other than Dev and General. >>> >> A problem with IRC is that if no one happens to respond near the time >> after the question is asked, the IRC keeps rolling on and the question gets >> lost. If working in a different time zone, or during non-1st-shift hours, >> the chances of not being heard are high. >> >> With the mailing list, a new message from a list has a slim chance of >> being unseen. >> >> Personally to me, it’s also a bit ironic that the topic of IRC came up in >> the context of yet another discussion about the existence of >> evergreen-admin list. That IRC meeting about setting up the list was about >> my first time using the IRC for Evergreen, and it was not a pleasant >> experience. I don’t recall all the details, but my general takeaway was >> that by the time I was done typing up a response, several posts would >> either modify the original premise or move the topic along to something >> else. To counter that effect, when I tried to be brief and fast things did >> not always come out sounding the way I intended. I had similar experiences >> when participating in other types meetings on IRC. Based on my personal >> subjective experience, my view is that the IRC is not a good channel for >> meaningful discussion. >> >> Michael Peters >>> Senior Systems Analyst >>> Emerald Data Networks, Inc. >>> Phone: 678.302.3000 x1013 >>> Help Desk: 678.302.3000 x1500 >>> www.emeralddata.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Galen Charlton >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:43 PM >>> To: Evergreen Discussion Group >>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the >>> "evergreen-admin" >>> mailing list >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chris Sharp < >>> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, >>>> the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose >>>> venue for (non-development related) technical help in running >>>> Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case >>>> for keeping it. ;-) >>>> >>> 0. >>> >>> A dedicated list for Evergreen sysadmins could work in principle, but of >>> course requires that folks actually answer questions posted to it. >>> Since the list was created, there's been long periods where it has been >>> mostly ignored, either passively or actively, and I think it long ago >>> reached the point where reluctance to use it has self-fulfilled a >>> prophecy >>> that it would not be used. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Galen >>> -- >>> Galen Charlton >>> Manager of Implementation >>> Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts >>> email: [email protected] >>> direct: +1 770-709-5581 >>> cell: +1 404-984-4366 >>> skype: gmcharlt >>> web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ >>> Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & >>> http://evergreen-ils.org >>> >> Aleksey Lazar >> IS Developer and Integrator - PALS >> http://www.mnpals.org/ >> >> > -- > Kathy Lussier > Project Coordinator > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative > (508) 343-0128 > [email protected] > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier > > -- Ruth Frasur Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township Library 10 W. 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