Hi Eva,

You will need to do a reingest of records to see the changes in your search
-- in general the reingest can be targeted to just the records that were
affected by the change (but in your case, I imagine a lot of records
contain an 041).

Hope this helps,
Andrea

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:36 PM Cerninakova Eva <cer...@jabok.cz> wrote:

> Thanks a lot both of you ;-)
>
> I was thinking the same way Jane, so I have at least put a link to a
> pre-arranged search for English and German titles using a query with
> -item_lang (cze) to our catalog homepage. I hope this  can partly help
> our students to solve the problem.
>
>
> I have also tried to delete the 041 field and its subfield from Record
> Attribute Definition on our test server today, similarly as it is suggested
> in the documentation Andrea have sent. However, the search result haven't
> changed, see
> http://aron.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&qtype=keyword&contains=contains&query=item_lang%28eng%29&bool=and&qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&contains=contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&locg=1&pubdate=is&date1=&date2=&sort=
> I wonder whether it is necessary to do anything else?
>
> Thanks
> Eva
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
> cer...@jabok.cz
> Tel. +420 211 222 409
>
> Knihovna Jabok
> http:/knihovna.jabok.cz
> Tel.  +420 211 222 410
> Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
> Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
>
>
> 2018-09-18 18:13 GMT+02:00 Andrea Buntz Neiman <
> abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org>:
>
>> Hi Eva,
>>
>> Equinox did the work here & it seems that we missed adding the
>> documentation to the community docs repository during the run up to 3.1.
>> Apologies about that!  We'll get that committed shortly.  In the meantime
>> please see the attached PDF with that documentation.  Configuring the
>> indexed subfields can be found on page 4.
>>
>> Best,
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:02 PM Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Eva,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the question!  Perhaps you already know this, but you can
>>> now use Evergreen's boolean operators on the languages.  So, if you
>>> want to retrieve all your materials that contain English or German (or
>>> both), but not Czech, you can use this search:
>>>
>>> (item_lang(eng) || item_lang(ger)) -item_lang(cze)
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, that syntax is not very friendly for students.
>>>
>>> I believe you can turn off indexing of the 041$a (or other subfields)
>>> in Server Administration > MARC Record Attributes.
>>>
>>>  -Jane
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:13 AM Cerninakova Eva <cer...@jabok.cz> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I would like to ask whether there is a possibility to exclude the
>>> value of the field 041 when searching by language in the Evergreen catalog
>>> (and search only by the value specified in the 008 field).
>>> >
>>> > Our students often need literature in German or in English for their
>>> language lessons. In our previous Evergreen versions they used to search
>>> English or German materials using language filter in the OPAC. Our
>>> consortium have upgraded to Evergreen 3.1 this summer. Version 3.1 allows
>>> combining the searched languages by extracting values from both the 008
>>> control field and the 041 data field. Unfortunately, this excellent new
>>> ability has unexpected consequences for searching in our catalog. When
>>> search query is filtered for example by English language of the item, most
>>> search results are  in Czech nevertheless. The reason is quite simple: most
>>> scholarly materials contain resume in English or German (or both), and
>>> information about language of an existing resume is usually specified in
>>> the field 041 $b of the bib record. This means, the filtering by language
>>> is useles for our users at the moment ;-( .
>>> >
>>> > Example of the search query  filtered by English language of the item:
>>> https://knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&contains=contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&fi%3Aitem_lang=eng&locg=102&pubdate=is&date1=&date2=&sort=
>>> > Example of the search qurey filtered by German language of the item:
>>> https://knihovna.jabok.cuni.cz/eg/opac/results?bool=and&qtype=keyword&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=title&contains=contains&query=&bool=and&qtype=author&contains=contains&query=&_adv=1&detail_record_view=0&fi%3Aitem_lang=ger&locg=102&pubdate=is&date1=&date2=&sort=
>>> >
>>> > Is there some setting available, that would exclude the values
>>> specified in field 041 from the search result when searching by language of
>>> the item?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance for any hint.
>>> > Eva
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Mgr. Eva Cerniňáková
>>> > cer...@jabok.cz
>>> > Tel. +420 211 222 409
>>> >
>>> > Knihovna Jabok
>>> > http:/knihovna.jabok.cz
>>> > Tel.  +420 211 222 410
>>> > Jabok - Vyšší odborná škola sociálně pedagogická a teologická
>>> > Salmovská 8, 120 00 Praha 2
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jane Sandberg
>>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>> Linn-Benton Community College
>>> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrea Buntz Neiman
>> Project Manager for Software Development
>> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>> abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org
>> 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) x5583
>> *www.equinoxinitiative.org <http://www.equinoxinitiative.org>*
>>
>
>

-- 
Andrea Buntz Neiman
Project Manager for Software Development
Equinox Open Library Initiative
abnei...@equinoxinitiative.org
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