On May 6, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:

On May 6, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:

+1 to the change.

What do you think about changing dir names so that openjpa-all becomes
openjpa-dist or something?

Do you mean changing "openjpa-project" (which is the distribution) to "openjpa-dist"?

We could, although it wouldn't impact the artifact names.

I think the important thing is the artifact names. Once we agree on the artifact names, we can choose to rename the directories to suit.



On 5/6/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Poking around the ActiveMQ pom.xml files, I notice that you can have
a different artifactId than the module name (i.e., directory) you are
in. I hadn't known you could do this.

Currently, our artifacts name are:

   trunk/pom.xml: openjpa
   trunk/openjpa-all/pom.xml: openjpa-all
   trunk/openjpa-project/pom.xml: openjpa-project

We could change these to:

   trunk/pom.xml: openjpa-parent
   trunk/openjpa-all/pom.xml: openjpa
   trunk/openjpa-project/pom.xml: apache-openjpa

I've tested this out, and it results in the openjpa aggregate jar
being named "openjpa-VERSION.jar", the dependency being simply named
"openjpa", and the assembly is named "apache-openjpa-VERSION.zip".
None of the directories needed to be renamed. I've attached the patch
that does this to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-194

Since this will mess up people who currently have maven dependencies
on OpenJPA (i.e., people who depend on "openjpa-all" will now need to depend on "openjpa"), we should probably get this hammered out before
leaving incubation. So I've gone ahead and turned the [DISCUSS] into
a [VOTE] to see if we should go ahead and do this.

A vote of +1 means we should do the renaming, -1 means we should not,
and 0 means "don't care". The vote will remain open until Wednesday
May 9th at 23:59 GMT.

On May 4, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Michael Dick wrote:

> Some comments below
> On 5/4/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd like reopen the discussion on how to package and name our
>> artifacts. I think the current setup could be improved, to give a
>> better experience for users who might not be using maven for
>> dependency management. It's easy for us to change now before
>> graduation because once we graduate, people will need to update their >> dependencies anyway so there are no backward compatibility issues.
>> The name of the single jar that has all of the openjpa stuff in it
>> except for the documentation and examples is currently called
>> openjpa-
>> all. This name is confusing because unless they RTFM, people don't
>> really know that it's not all the code you need, just all the jpa
>> code. So I'd like to call this artifact openjpa.
> +1
> But we already have a project with that name, and that project builds >> the distributions. So I'd rename the current openjpa to openjpa-dist.
>> Its ultimate destination in the Apache mirror structure is under
>> www.apache.org/dist/openjpa once we graduate, so having dist in the
>> project name helps understanding that this project builds the
>> artifacts that go into dist. Separate from the artifacts that are
>> published via maven.
> +1
> Finally, the openjpa-all jar includes its subcomponents as
>> dependencies. I think this is wrong, since you end up with a class >> path with openjpa-all.jar as well as openjpa-kernel.jar and all the
>> others.
> I would like to change this too. I did a little experimenting and
> it looks
> like the dependencies aren't needed in openjpa-all, but they are
> needed for
> openjpa-project (to populate the lib directory). Moving the
> dependencies
> into openjpa-project should be safe.
> We're also going to need to change the deploy logic to strip out the
> -project suffix from the zip files. We've talked about it before
> when I was
> releasing 0.9.7 (and before that when Marc was working on 0.9.6),
> but I
> haven't had time to look into it. It should be fairly easy to make the
> change.
> Thoughts?
>> Craig
>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/ products/
>> jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> -Michael Dick

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