>The gatekeepers have an open channel to Apple on AFS but we really
>need issues to be filed via the Apple Sales staff.  Other organizations
>have gotten Apple's attention by refusing to order new equipment with
>Tiger installed until an OpenAFS stable release is available.   I'm not
>suggesting you do the same; I'm only pointing out that the sales staff
>can be motivated to serve your needs.

Well ... I'm willing to try to do my part, but is it possible to "close
the loop" ... in other words, if a sales droid tells me that they "did
something", can someone verify that in fact they _did_ do something
meaningful?

>If that does not work for you, as a developer you can also file bug
>reports via ADC.  If you are going to do so, please file a bug report
>at [EMAIL PROTECTED] including the ADC Bug Reference number.

I'm willing to do that as well ... but my experience has shown me
REPEATEDLY that Apple basically makes one halfhearted attempt to
resolve a bug report files that way, and then ignores it.  Happened to
me twice.  These weren't OpenAFS issues, but I can't imagine that the
experience in filing bug reports dealing with third-party software
is going to be any better.

--Ken
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