Considering it a showstopper when you admit one graph earlier that you're already running with a patched tree seems a bit overblown, perhaps? The tree is now gold and patches may no longer be applied?

Derrick


On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Rainer Toebbicke <[email protected]> wrote:

Russ Allbery schrieb:

I'm aware of the following (largish) things that we want to deprecate or
remove:
* --enable-fast-restart and --enable-bitmap-later are earlier attempts to
 solve the problem that is solved in a more complete way by demand
 attach.  Demand attach will be available in 1.6 but not enabled by
default. These two options will conflict with demand-attach; in other words, you won't be able to enable either of them and demand attach at
 the same time.
 At the point at which we make demand attach the default, rather than
 optional behavior, I believe we should remove the code for these two
 flags.  I think that should be for either 1.10 or 2.0 based on
experience with running 1.6 in production. In the meantime, please be
 aware that most of the developers don't build with those flags by
 default and the code is not heavily tested.

I'm concerned about removing the code for fast-restart and bitmap- later just because DAFS becomes the default.

We've been running with our own "on-demand-attach" since 5-6 years in 1.2 and 1.4 with perfect satisfaction, and given its size and impact on the code I'd rather wait until DAFS gets a decent share of debugging before considering to move to it.

On the other hand, salvaging a complete file server just because of a crash is not an option, and removing anything that's required for it, be it fast-restart, bitmap-later or whatever, becomes a show- stopper!


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