It's funny this question should come up because I've been thinking about building an app I'd love to deploy just like http://status.net/ - i.e. one on which your account be hosted or one which you can literally just as easily just download and host yourself.
But to additionally be able to host it without any special tooling or expertise would bring a whole new meaning to the term "Open." I've been following the Gov 2.0 movement for a while and a sentiment I hear again and again is that knowing something about programming is now a prerequisite for thriving in today's world (http://j.mp/bWvxz1 and http://j.mp/9mUTp4 off the top of my head but many other places...) If CFML can be that language that everyone kind of knows (like HTML) and which can be hosted anywhere for free and minimal effort, but which can handle complex business logic, scaffolding, orm, aop, enterprise system integration, etc with the big boys, well, I agree I'd call that combination a good candidate for a holy grail. -Jason On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Derek Vounin <[email protected]> wrote: > @Baz: I didn't say another tool - I had in mind just the opposite: the lack > of a need for any tooling at all to deploy a robust, free and open full > stack, topped off with a scripting language with the most welcoming learning > curve in town. > > @Peter: exactly. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Peter Farrell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Eclipse has become a more popular tool for CFML devs but I know some devs >> don't use Eclipse. However a one click to the cloud installer with the >> ability to change app settings would be a great way to for people to off the >> shelf open source apps. >> On Feb 27, 2011 1:30 PM, "Baz" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Why would the holy grail be to use a different tool than eclipse to >> upload >> > an app? >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Matthew Woodward < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Derek Vounin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would think the Holy Grail of features would be the ability for an >> app >> >>> to take a user's Google credentials and upload a new instance itself >> (the >> >>> app) directly ( >> >>> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/uploadinganapp.html) >> >>> without requiring use of the Eclipse plug-in. >> >>> >> >> >> >> You actually don't need to use the Eclipse plugin now--you can upload >> right >> >> from a terminal: >> >> >> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/gettingstarted/uploading.html >> >> >> >> But stay tuned for something we've been working on related to this. :-) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Matthew Woodward >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://blog.mattwoodward.com >> >> identi.ca / Twitter: @mpwoodward >> >> >> >> Please do not send me proprietary file formats such as Word, >> PowerPoint, >> >> etc. as attachments. >> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> tag/function ref: http://www.openbluedragon.org/manual/ >> >> mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en >> >> >> >> Get to Texas in Feb for OpenCFSummit http://www.opencfsummit.org/ >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > tag/function ref: http://www.openbluedragon.org/manual/ >> > mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en >> > >> > Get to Texas in Feb for OpenCFSummit http://www.opencfsummit.org/ >> >> -- >> tag/function ref: http://www.openbluedragon.org/manual/ >> mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en >> >> Get to Texas in Feb for OpenCFSummit http://www.opencfsummit.org/ >> > > -- > tag/function ref: http://www.openbluedragon.org/manual/ > mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en > -- tag/function ref: http://www.openbluedragon.org/manual/ mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en
