Hi Kristof,

I really like some of the rails concepts but having written a few
frameworks the things that concern me in general are:

1. Bloat
2. Abstraction
3. The assumption for a lot of frameworks that they are the primary
application which makes including them within another application or
existing application difficult. I'm sure you can get around this.

I'm sure a lot of frameworks start off the right way but over time they get
the kitchen sink added in which worries me.

Or in the case of trying emulate e.g. rails doing some pretty yucky things
like includes in CFCS :)

I'm not quite on the same page that CFML is the framework, to me its a
layer on top of the app server with functions and tags but its
applicationness is a bit limited other than whats now provided by
Application.cfc.

I do see the need for frameworks but i do agree that sometimes the
framework developers do things just to be clever rather than there being
any material benefit.

My 2p

A



On 22 May 2012 11:43, stofke72 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you for implementing this, I really appreciate your effort but I
> don't really understand the cynicism here about CFWheels or frameworks in
> general.
>
> I know it's a tongue in cheek remark but to me a framework has it value.
>  I dealt with fusebox in the past and I really didn't like it so I
> understand where these remarks are coming from.
>
> However if you worked with Ruby on Rails you just have to admit it's a
> very efficient and beautiful way of writing web applications.  And more and
> more Coldfusion programmers are moving towards it for the very same reasons.
>
> CFWheels in the end is just Coldfusion code but with a lot of ideas from
> Ruby on Rails to make life easier, great ORM and plugins like scaffolding,
> database migrations and so on.
>
> I actually like the way it forces me to organize my code in a better way,
> it also prevents me from doing the same things over and over again and
> saves me incredible amounts of time using handy built-in functions instead
> of reinventing the wheel for every new project.
>
> I have no doubt that people on this forum are insanely great coders that
> don't need a framework to churn out beautiful & well organized code but for
> a mere mortal average programmer like myself it's a great help to prevent
> me from cooking up spaghetti code and to get things done in a reasonable
> amount of time.
>
> Just give it a try (now that it should work on OpenBD) and you'll be
> amazed how much fun CFWheels is.
>
> Kristof
>
> Op dinsdag 22 mei 2012 01:58:23 UTC+2 schreef Alan Williamson het volgende:
>
>> GetComponentMetaData() has been added to the nightly build.
>>
>> May the wheels keep on turning ;)
>>
>>
>> On 21/05/2012 08:10, Alan Williamson wrote:
>> > thanks Alex.
>> >
>> > On 21/05/2012 08:01, Alex Skinner wrote:
>> >> here is a sample
>> >> http://www.danvega.org/blog/**index.cfm/2007/6/5/Scorpio-**
>> Functions-GetComponentMetaData<http://www.danvega.org/blog/index.cfm/2007/6/5/Scorpio-Functions-GetComponentMetaData>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It looks to me to be the same as getMetadata(this) from a perspective
>> >> of fields and functions but obviously with no instance data
>> >
>>
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