>> This is definitely possible with Quid Pro Quo (which
>> is also free), I think Alain is using NetPresenz.
>> I'd say there's a way to do it with it as well. If
>> not, it wouldn't take much to swap if Alain thought
> it
>> was important. It's his call though (obviously).
>
> Alain responds :
>
> 1. I am currently using NetPresenz.
>
> 2. NetPresenz costs the same as Quid Pro Quo (free).
>
> 3. In addition to HTTP, NetPresenz provides for FTP.
> Does Quid Pro Quo provide FTP?
Adrian: QPQ does not do FTP. NetPresenz is currently the only free FTP
server capable of uploads & accounts that I have found.
> 4. As for security features, I would have to look into
> it. As things are now, I have configured NetPresenz to
> use the access priviledges of MacOS's "Users &
> Groups".
Adrian: QPQ is also capable of this, as well as supporting WebSTAR style
accesspriveliges (realms etc).
> 5. I am not against using Quid Pro Quo, and I am not
> particularly fond of NetPresenz. Versatility-wise,
> ASIP has been the best web-server-software so far. It
> provided HTTP, Mail, News, file-sharing and a few
> other things, but its poor to non-existent
> configuration options, including its lack of security
> features, don't make ASIP the best choice either.
> Performance-wise, WebSTAR is un-matched, but it costed
> me 500$, and its access priviledges management (realms
> and such) is just too quirky. I hear Apache is good
> but I haven't migrated to MacOS-X yet.
Adrian: Apache is what is behind most web servers on the internet. That
doesn't nessecarily mean it's the best though, I haven't gotten around to
trying to set it up yet. I'm too busy trying to set up the rest of
LinuxPPC.
> So the bottom-line of it all is that I still haven't
> found what I am looking for, as U2 would sing.
Adrian: Of course, I'm not trying to tell you what you should run, but
simply trying to keep you informed of the alternatives so you can make an
informed decision. It makes little difference to me what server software
you choose, you have to be confident in the security of your server, not me.
I'll worry about my computer which is suddenly very open to attack due to
becoming part of the university network.
> I sometimes fantasize (for lack of a better word)
> about creating my very own web-server software ... and
> a much better web client too! But then reality hits me
> like a ton of bricks. The design, the programming,
> etc, ... but also getting the thing adopted by the
> public at large. If there is to be any hope of
> achieving it, I must equip myself with a very powerful
> set of Rapid Application Development tools ... you
> guessed it ... I want our OpenCard (shameless plug!).
Adrian: Here here.
> Anthony: ... you could always use LinuxPPC.
>
> Alain: Does LinuxPPC require MacOS-X ?
Adrian: LinuxPPC is an entirely different OS. It can run parrallel to MacOS
(you have the option as to which one you want to boot into on startup) but
will not run MacOS programs without emulation software. (Emulation software
is available for Mac and reportedly incurs a negligable speed loss when in
full screen mode. There's also a much better Intel chip emulator for Linux
than Virtual PC or SoftWindows).
> Alain: Does LinuxPPC run with MacOS 8.6.1 or 9 ?
Adrian: LinuxPPC will not currently boot if OS 9 is installed. LinuxPPC,
however is an opensource development and only a small modification needs to
be made to make it boot under OS9, I'd expect compatibility within a week or
two.
> Alain: Is LinuxPPC palatable to someone brought up
> with the MacOS? Is it as dweeby as UNIX?
Adrian: Linux is a UNIX variant. It looks like UNIX, it behaves like UNIX.
Once set up, it can be used as easily as Mac, but setting it up and making
it secure is very difficult. Fortunately there are plenty of good books
available for Linux including "Linux For Dummies" which is what I'm starting
with.
> Alain: Most important of all, does LinuxPPC REALLY
> work? Stable, fast, reliable, easy to fix ... Is it
> ... The Holy Grail?
Adrian: LinuxPPC is very fast, reliable but not really easy to fix. It's a
geek's OS, but interface improvements are continually being made (eg. there
is now a graphical installer instead of the RedHat, text-based installer).
> Anthony: It'll give you security -- even if you let
> all of us upload and run cgi's.
>
> Alain: Quite interesting! Have you tried it yourself
> or are you relating someone else's experience with
> Apache?
Adrian: I have LinuxPPC installed and this is the case so long as Linux has
been set up right. There are many ways to open up gaping holes in Linux
security if you fiddle around like you can in MacOS.
> Anthony: And Apache is unmatched ...
>
> Alain: I have not heard much about Apache but what I
> have heard has always been favorable. I want to know
> more.
>
> Anthony: ... (in it's own unique way :)
>
> Alain: Pray tell, Anthony.
Adrian: Hopefully soon I will have experience with Apache and will be able
to give you information on it's performance and ease of use. Do feel free
to contact me if you want more information about LinuxPPC or Apache I have
lots of contacts in that area and it is an area that I am moving into
myself.
Adrian Sutton
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