The python version of Adagram seems not complete and not tested, so I think I'd rather deal with the Julia implementation at this point.... Julia is not that complicated, and I don't love python anyway...
Regarding the deficiencies of n-grams, I agree with Linas. However, my suggestion is to modify Adagram to use inputs obtained from parse trees (the MST information theory based parse trees that Linas's code produces) rather than simply from word-sequences. So then it will be a non-gram-based Adagram.... The "gram" part of Adagram is not what interests me; what interests me is the ability of that particular NN architecture/algorithm to make word2vec style dimensionally-reduced vectors in a way that automagically carries out word-sense disambiguation along the way.... I believe it can do this same trick if fed features from the MST parses, rather than being fed n-gram-ish features from raw word sequences.... But this will require some code changes and experimentation... -- Ben On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Linas Vepstas <linasveps...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. The point of this is that we're not using n-grams for anything. > We're using sheaves. So any algo that has "gram" in it's name is immediately > disqualified. The bet is that by doing grammar correctly, using sheaves, > will get you much much better results than using n-grams. And that's the > point. > > --linas > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Enzo Fenoglio (efenogli) > <efeno...@cisco.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Linas >> >> Nice working with you guys on interesting stuff. >> >> >> >> PCA is a linear classifier not suited for this kind of problems. I >> strongly suggest moving definitely to ANN >> >> >> >> About Adagram this is an implementation for python >> https://github.com/lopuhin/python-adagram of the original Julia >> implementation posted by Ben. Or you may have a look at Sensegram >> http://aclweb.org/anthology/W/W16/W16-1620.pdf with code >> https://github.com/tudarmstadt-lt/sensegram . I am not aware of ANN for >> Adagram but there are plenty for skipgram, for example >> https://keras.io/preprocessing/sequence/#skipgrams >> >> >> >> bye >> >> e >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Linas Vepstas [mailto:linasveps...@gmail.com] >> Sent: lundi 19 juin 2017 11:16 >> To: opencog <opencog@googlegroups.com>; Curtis M. Faith >> <curtis.m.fa...@gmail.com> >> Cc: Ruiting Lian <ruit...@hansonrobotics.com>; Enzo Fenoglio (efenogli) >> <efeno...@cisco.com>; Hugo Latapie (hlatapie) <hlata...@cisco.com>; Andres >> Suarez <suarezand...@gmail.com>; link-grammar >> <link-gram...@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [opencog-dev] Re: [Link Grammar] Cosine similarity, PCA, >> sheaves (algebraic topology) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote: >> >> >> Regarding "hidden multivariate logistic regression", as you hint at >> the end of your document ... it seems you are gradually inching toward >> my suggestion of using neural nets here... >> >> >> >> Maybe. I want to understand the data first, before I start applying random >> algorithms to it. BTW, the previous report, showing graphs and distributions >> of various sorts: its been expanded and cleaned up with lots of new stuff. >> Nothing terribly exciting. I can send the current version, if you care. >> >> >> However, we haven't gotten to experimenting with that yet, because are >> still getting stuck with weird Guile problems in trying to get the MST >> parsing done ... we (Curtis) can get through MST-parsing maybe >> 800-1500 sentences before it crashes (and it doesn't crash when >> examined with GDB, which is frustrating...).... >> >> >> >> Arghhh. OK, I just now merged one more tweak to the text-ingestion that >> might allow you to progress. Some back-story: >> >> Back-when, when Curtis was complaining about the large amount of CPU time >> spent in garbage collection, that is because the script *manually* triggered >> a GC after each sentence. I presume that Curtis was not aware of this. Now >> he is. >> >> The reason for doing this was that, without it, mem usage would blow up: >> link-grammar was returning these strings that were 10 or 20MBytes long and >> the GC was perfectly happy in letting these clog up RAM. That works out to a >> gigabyte every 50 or 100 sentences, so I was forcing GC to run pretty much >> constantly: maybe a few times a second. >> >> This appears to have exposed an obscure guile bug. Each of those giant >> strings contains scheme code, which guile interprets/compiles and then runs. >> It appears that high-frequency GC pulls the rug out from under the >> compiler/interpreter, leading to a weird hang. I think I know how to turn >> this into a simple test case, but haven't yet. >> >> Avoiding the high-frequency GC avoids the weird hang. And that's what the >> last few github merges do. Basically, it checks, after every sentence, if >> RAM usage is above 750MBytes, and then forces a GC if it is. This is enough >> to keep RAM usage low, while still avoiding the other ills and diseases. >> >> For me, its been running for over a week without any problems. It runs at >> about a few sentences per second. Not sure, its not something I measure. So >> pretty slow, but I kind-of don't care. because after a week, its 20 or 40 >> million observations of words, which is plenty enough for me. Too much, >> actually, the datasets get too big, and I need to trim them. >> >> This has no effect at all on new, unmerged Curtis code. It won't fix his >> crash. Its only for the existing pipeline. So set it running on some other >> machine, and while Curtis debugs, you'll at least get some data piling up. >> Run it stock, straight out of the box, don't tune it or tweak it, and it >> should work fine. >> >> --linas > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "link-grammar" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to link-grammar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to link-gram...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/link-grammar. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "I am God! I am nothing, I'm play, I am freedom, I am life. I am the boundary, I am the peak." -- Alexander Scriabin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. 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