Hi Anastasios,

Yes. But first: complaining that opencog is written in C++ is like
complaining about the fact that the linux kernel on your cellphone is
written in C. Who cares? It does not affect 99.9999% of all cellphone users
because they do not write kernel device drivers.

Think of the atomspace as being like an OS kernel.  You probably should not
be writing new C++ extensions it.  Instead, you should be writing apps for
it.  The apps are where the action is.

So far, we've offered maybe half-a-dozen app APIs for it, with varying
degrees of success.

Having an instance on the cloud would be great, where people could spin up
an instance, and log into it. I've long long wanted to do this; hell, I
could just throw an old PC onto my internet connection. I don't have time
to mess with this.

For cloud-cog, the only thing available would be the app API's, and maybe
that would make the bitching about C++ stop...

--linas

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Anastasios Tsiolakidis <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Well isn't OpenCog having a busy weekend :) As a lurker I have already
> expressed my dissatisfaction at "advanced C++" which is the trend in the
> project, and would probably carry over my disapproval of "idiomatic C#".
> There is absolutely no reason for the coding to be more difficult to
> comprehend that OpenCog's design itself. If anything, the code should make
> plain and simple what the bloody design is trying to do! Now, my particular
> wet dream would be to see people pulling together their own "free
> resources", like the free tiers at AWS, Google Cloud etc, to create a
> hive-mind. If somebody was brilliant enough to throw away big chunks of the
> code and instead achieve (some of) the same results with a DB of sorts, AWS
> lambda etc, that would be quite something. Then, for the parts that don't
> fit the "cloud" box, if someone could come up with the "CloudCog", some
> probabilistic graph, inference engine or whatever is missing from the
> garden variety PAAS and SAAS, then we could really be heading somewhere. I
> don't know much about the project beyond the demos, but I do believe the
> project is being hurt by the general unavailability of a constantly running
> instance that "does something", whatever that maybe, and somehow can be
> accessed by the public, eg through an API. Presumably this new hedge fund
> thing may be the closest OpenCog has come to being a 24/7 system, and Ben
> will probably tells us if he finds out a better way to do things with and
> without this codebase
>
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