On 12/13/18 10:18 AM, Johannes Castner wrote:
cognition. What we are trying to do is to elicit logical beliefs from
people directly and with the help of technology (inferences etc) to let
them collectively decide what are the right relationships,
attention-values and truth-values via something similar but more general
than prediction markets; markets and democratic institutions with
emergent collective general intelligence. As far as I understand
MindAgents, we're essentially trying to have humans take the role of
MindAgents for decision making and understanding systems. Essentially,
I think that there hasn't been nearly enough innovation and work to
improve markets and democracy. Markets are not just aggregating
beliefs, they are also giving more power to those who have fewer
economic constraints and democracy currently has no incentives for
people to vote for those things that they belief will serve the whole
collective but rather the incentives are to care only about one's own
narrowly defined groups. Also, I'm thinking that if the singularity
were to have humans in the loop and we could all work effectively
together to solve complex problems then it would be more human friendly
as well? In other words, while jobs as we know them are being
automated we could be creative and solve problems together instead of
working bagging groceries. I believe instinctively that we all have
something to contribute when it comes to solving complex decision
problems and I intent to test my instincts and then prove these ideas to
others. Is that making sense to you?
Sounds awesome, makes total sense to me.
I can vaguely recall seeing a platform to aggregate people's believes to
help predict stuff, but I forgot the name. So what you describe sounds
like something like that combined with some AI synergy.
Nil
Johannes
On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 5:58:31 AM UTC, Nil wrote:
On 12/12/18 12:59 PM, Johannes Castner wrote:
> I want to thank you for your help; without it I'd really be stuck
right
> now! Maybe I can contribute an example to the example folder once I
> have my module completed.
Yes, that is very welcome.
> Mind Agents of sorts. Working on hacking something workable for a
> minimum viable product for a service I'm trying to provide as a
> commercial application of OpenCog ...right now something very
hacky and
> minimal will suffice to work as something from which to get first
> customers and then some investment so that then I have some
resources to
> contribute as much as possible to OpenCog and to bend its
capabilities a
> bit in the direction of my interest: Collective General
Intelligence.
> Does that make sense? I'd greatly value your perspective!
That's a great goal. By Collective General Intelligence you mean
something like Distributed General Intelligence? Sounds a bit like what
SingularityNET is trying to achieve.
Nil
>
> Johannes
>
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 5:49:47 AM UTC, Nil wrote:
>
> On 12/11/18 8:37 PM, Johannes Castner wrote:
> > What I’d like to do is just find the last value; I won’t know
> what the value is so searching for a number isn’t what I need
but
> rather I need to search for a user (by name or ID) and then
get her
> current score and subtract or add something to it, according
to some
> user behavior. Ideally I’d have a function update_score(user,
> number), which gets the last score and then adds or subtracts or
> multiplied or divides that score by the supplied number.
Does that
> make sense?
>
> If all you need is the last value then, for now, I would
recommend to
> attach a Value (cog-set-value!, etc) to your user id, as I
initially
> presented.
>
> Nil
>
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