Read below.

It is interesting to read what you try to do.
This is work (R&D in the 7th Frame Work) for the near future, I expect.


Gerard


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On 3-nov-2006, at 16:37, Mattias Forss wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm currently working in a group that has been evaluating  
> archetypes and they found out that there in archetypes may be  
> needed to add external nodes from other archetypes instead of only  
> adding complete archetypes as slots. Does the current ADL  
> specification allow that external parts from other archetypes can  
> be included? I think the openEHR templates allow to cut off parts  
> in a slot, but I'm not sure if they can exclude everything except a  
> single item.

It is the template where constraints on selected/collected archetypes  
can be made in any level of detail.


>
> The group also found out that there is a need to deduct certain  
> answers depending on previously answered questions. For example if  
> we previously answered that the blood pressure was above 160, then  
> another question about hypertension should be answered  
> automatically. Is this possible to do in archetypes?

At this moment Archetypes are there to represent data and information  
that needs to be stored, retrieved and exchanged.
Archetypes/templates are not designed, so far, to store, retrieve and  
exchange knowledge.

It is a matter of R&D to be done in the near future to make it  
possible. We need this to use Archetypes/Templates in clinical  
pathways, case management  and workflow.



>
> Another issue is about computation. For example we could want a  
> quantifiable magnitude to be the result of two previously entered  
> values. Is this possible to do in archetypes? Perhaps in the  
> declaration section or the invariant section? I've seen that these  
> sections should contain some kind of first-order predicate logic,  
> but I'm not sure of the scope and limitations/possibilities of  
> these ADL sections. Also, the declaration section is actually not  
> even described in the ADL 1.4 document, it is only shown in an  
> example overview figure.
>

At this point in time ADL is NOT a specification for computation.  
This is R&D.


> Another feature is value reporting, which should work when we use  
> several archetypes in an openEHR template. For example if some  
> question was answered in one archetype, then another archetype that  
> has the same question should get the value reported from the  
> previous archetype. Is this possible? I guess this has to do with  
> external references as I mentioned in my first question.
>

You are describing functionality that resides in the business logic  
part of the EHR-system. This is (at present) outside of the scope of  
CEN/tc251 EN13606 or OpenEHR.


> We would also like to ask if there is a way of specifying validity  
> for questions depending on previously answered questions. E.g. if a  
> certain answer was given from a multiple alternative question  
> (coded_text), then and only then, some other group of questions  
> will be valid. Is this possible to do in archetypes? Perhaps it's  
> possible with invariants?
>

You are investigating across the limits of the defined scopes as  
published.


> Finally is there a way of specifying the relevance of answers in  
> archetypes. Say for example that if some laboratory results are too  
> old, could an archetype contain some restrictions that make it  
> illegal to answer certain questions because the material that the  
> answers are based upon is too old? I'm not sure if this is related  
> to DSS or something else.
>


vide supra,

> Regards,
>
> Mattias, via the Link?ping Team.
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