Heath Frankel schreef:
> Bert,
> Well why don't you start a blog on the openEHR WIKI (confluence uses the
> term News for a Blog article) about your experience as a starting point
> rather than waiting for someone else to start it.  It does not need to be
> anything too in depth initially just to test the interest.  Others might
> then write their own blog articles and from these we can start a Wiki page
> consolidating the agreed ideas.
>   
This is a good idea, I didn't come to that, it is a way of starting a
discussion, and tell about I am doing and the way I solve problems
without giving my product away
Email always give me the feeling of volatility, and a blog is just that
bit more persistent to be worth spending time in it.

Again a good idea

Thanks
Bert
> Another good blog topic might be the changes you made to the OS Java Kernel.
> Using the Blog is better than an email thread as it will serve as a
> permanent record of those ideas which get lost and fragmented in email. 
>
> I think you will find that the majority of Open Source Software is written
> by one person or a very few people (small company) and this is reflected in
> the current openEHR reference implementations (Java Kernel, ADL Workbench,
> both Archetype Editors).  The interest in these tools were probably not
> known until they were released as open source.  As the interest grows in the
> open source project, additional parties come on board and contribute, but
> there always needs some ONE to plant the seed.
>
> Heath
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-
>> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees
>> Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2008 7:35 PM
>> To: timothywayne.cook at gmail.com; For openEHR technical discussions
>> Subject: Re: persistence
>>
>> Tim Cook schreef:
>>     
>>> On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 16:59 +0100, Bert Verhees wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Thomas Beale schreef:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Probably you need to clarify the concrete basis of this discussion
>>>>>           
> from
>   
>>>>> your point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> The fact is, I have a persistence layer running, can be optimized on
>>>> some places (working on that), but is does it job. I don't need others
>>>> to help me.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Hi Bert,
>>>
>>> Hmmmm,  I find this a little confusing.  In your many posts you are
>>> calling for people to help develop a persistence API.  Yet here you are
>>> saying that you have one and do not need help.
>>>
>>> Maybe some clarification will help.  Is there a place where you have
>>> made your Java implementation open source and available to others for
>>> assessment?
>>>
>>>       
>> (I do not, at this moment want to publish my code. I worked two years on
>> my code, I keep it for myself until there will be a good reason to
>> publish it)
>> First, we can discuss an API, maybe my code this not fit at all in the
>> results of this discussion.
>> I am not important, nor is my code important, the *plan* is important,
>> and that I explained a few times.
>>
>> Do we need the code from other participants before we can discuss a good
>> way to implement the ideas behind it?
>> I can explain how I did things, for assessment-purposes, if you like,
>> better is, explain it for progress-purposes. That is, maybe important,
>> that is part of the discussion. Others can have others ideas or like
>> what I have done, or have on some parts the idea that it can be done on
>> a better way, that is discussion. That is what I call for.
>> But first we need people who want to discuss, A discussion on my own is
>> a lonely thing.
>>
>> I want with others to build an API, with or without me (I am not
>> important), so problems that will show up during doing this will reflect
>> to the Java-kernel. ("the way is important" (Buddhist saying)).
>> Also I hope this project then will facilitate others to build their
>> products, so the market potential of Openehr is boosted because of more
>> products coming to that market.
>> If needed and wanted, I will be happy to share my experience, and
>> work/code, but there must be some reason to do so. Maybe my code does
>> not fit at all in what others are going to do, why should I publish it
>>     
> then?
>   
>> Open Source in my opinion means, working together, not one does the job,
>> others look.
>> This last statement is not personally pointing to someone special.
>> Open Source,  can be, in my opinion, develop a plan together,  an
>> architecture, and build it together, so others of that community have
>> ways to analyze and judge the progress on criteria they made up together
>> before. If others have other opinions on this, please say.
>>
>> I discussed about one/two month ago with Rong, on this very same
>> mailinglist.
>> He agreed an open source API would be a good idea, but the discussion
>> stopped without coming to further plans.
>>
>> Every month or few months, we see emails appear from people the ask
>> where to start, or how to do persistence.
>> They always get an answer. From some of these people we never hear
>> again, because, I can only guess, maybe, they give up.
>> That is not good, we need implementers, we must facilitate them, make it
>> easy to step in, making openehr become something that will be important
>> worldwide.
>>
>> Now I stop writing about this, for the moment, I believe I explained
>> every aspect a few times in a few days.
>>
>> Thanks for your attention
>> Bert
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