Hi Paria,

> Now, I'm taking a look at existing archetypes to find if they will be useful
> for my case or not.

> Having an idea of the keyword to be searched is important itself! is there
> any other way to view all existing archetypes?

http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge/archetypes/dev/html/index_en.html

or

http://www.archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/archetypefinder

which is the visual counterpart to the web service used by the
archetype editor and allows the available archetypes to be searched
using other criteria.



> Anyway, I used web service to find archetypes, there is a mind map file
> relating to each archetype, is there any way to save the mm file ? I can
> just open it in firefox

.mm files are Freemind files - free download at:

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download

> I want also to print e.g the interface view of Archetypes, is any print
> service supported for Editor?

I don' think this is possible you might be best just to take screenshots to jpg

I use MWSnap freeware

http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html


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> Paria
> On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Sam Heard wrote:
>
> Hi P?ria...
>
> P?ria Kashfi wrote:
>
> It means that each clinician can create his/her own questionnaires.
> (experiences in this project showed that they are eager to have their own
> protocol including questionnaires and data they may access )there are some
> forms, or templates that are more general including questions like this one
> named GENERAL MEDICAL HISTORY
> Do you consider yourself healthy?
> Do you currently suffer from any disease or illness?
> Have you previously suffered from any disease or illness?
> Do you currently use any medication?
> Have you had treatment with Steroids during the last year?
> Do you have any skin problem?
>
> This is common. There are a number of approaches. It is possible to provide
> a generic questionnaire archetype which allows the question to be provided
> as a textural statement with a Yes/No boolean with a possible text box as
> well for comments.
>
> Such an archetype can then be specialised for particular questionnaires like
> the one above - this is appropriate for questionnaires that will be used for
> decision support or used widely. These can then be translated.
>
> The openEHR template provides a way of adding texts to labels - this allows
> one-off questionnaires which are of uncertain meaning in the general
> interoperability space. The openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.risk-anaesthetic.v1.adl
> will give you an indication (activate the web lookup in the editor - tools -
> options - File locations =
> http://archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/services/ArchetypeFinderBean?wsdl
> and type in 'risk'.
>
> We will be moving to the new Knowledge Manager very soon on the openEHR site
> which should make accessing and commenting on archetypes a whole lot easier.
>
>
> I hope this helps, Sam
>
> ....
> Also we have other kinds of forms like SALIVARY GLAND DISEASE
> What areas were examined?
> What is the color of the skin/mucosa covering the salivary gland?
> Are there any signs of muscositis?
> .....
> (I shows that there are two kinds of questions, one may be asked patient,
> one is for clinician herself to show what to examine or... )
>
> This sort of questionnaire might be better set out as an examination entry
> rather than a questionnaire - although I can see why this might be helpful
> at times. The same applies as above - but we might see it as part of an
> examination - perhaps as a cluster (questionnaire form).
>
> well, There are some unsolved problems in my mind regarding these questions
> and the possibility to create Archetypes or Templates for
> these questionnaires like the one above.
> 1- Is this an appropriate design way for Archetypes to create Archetypes
> based on questions or actions that one may ask or may do during visit or
> treatment?
>
> We have to be careful not to force the archetypes to be too 'near user form'
> - people may have forms that are quite pedantic for a reason and then store
> the information differently. It is always possible to include the
> questionnaire if appropriate.
>
> 2- Can I map these questionnaires to Archetypes or they are more like
> Templates?
>
> As above - it depends on their processing and how wide the use is.
>
> 3- I have this methodology in my mind when I try to map things to openEHR
> concepts
> - What are the specifications on the disease I want to present , symptoms,
> signs, related guidelines,...(general knowledge about disease)
> - Which questions may I ask when a patient visits me? general patient data,
> patient medical history,...
> - Is there any protocol for data gathering?
> - What kind of treatments I may suggest, or any more data do I need? any
> related laboratory tests ?
>
> Here you can create a template that provides the means of streamlining data
> collection in each setting....
>
> Finally, is it a proper way to think of creating an Archetype for a specific
> disease?
>
> In general, I do not think so - although burns and fractures are examples
> where you might want a specialisation (of diagnosis I guess). Usually
> templates are where you will provide the context specific data points.
>
> I know that I should first search for existing Archetypes and combine them
> to create Templates, but what if I cannot find any suitable Archetype for my
> case?
>
> Then you need to talk to us! You can try creating some archetypes and
> sharing them with the clinical group.
> Have a look on that web site above for 'question' and you will find some
> generic checklists and questionnaire archetypes.
>
> I should mention that all these efforts is to create a CDSS for a specific
> disease, so I need to be more specific in knowledge or data gathering.
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> Cheers, Sam
>
> Regards
> Paria
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