Thanks to Ian, Does the list locating here > http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge/archetypes/dev/html/index_en.html include all existing Archetypes? I mean at least all reliable and examined ones? in that case, If I cannot find the archetype I need, I should start another step to create a new one maybe, am I right?
On Jul 3, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Ian McNicoll wrote: > Hi Paria, > > >> Now, I'm taking a look at existing archetypes to find if they will >> be useful >> for my case or not. > >> Having an idea of the keyword to be searched is important itself! >> is there >> any other way to view all existing archetypes? > > http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge/archetypes/dev/html/index_en.html > > or > > http://www.archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/archetypefinder > > which is the visual counterpart to the web service used by the > archetype editor and allows the available archetypes to be searched > using other criteria. > > > >> Anyway, I used web service to find archetypes, there is a mind map >> file >> relating to each archetype, is there any way to save the mm file ? >> I can >> just open it in firefox > > .mm files are Freemind files - free download at: > > http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download > >> I want also to print e.g the interface view of Archetypes, is any >> print >> service supported for Editor? > > I don' think this is possible you might be best just to take > screenshots to jpg > > I use MWSnap freeware > > http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html > > > Dr Ian McNicoll > office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > skype ianmcnicoll > > Consultant - Ocean Informatics ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > Consultant - IRIS GP Accounts > > Member of BCS Primary Health Care Specialist Group ? www.phcsg.org > >> Paria >> On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Sam Heard wrote: >> >> Hi P?ria... >> >> P?ria Kashfi wrote: >> >> It means that each clinician can create his/her own questionnaires. >> (experiences in this project showed that they are eager to have >> their own >> protocol including questionnaires and data they may access )there >> are some >> forms, or templates that are more general including questions like >> this one >> named GENERAL MEDICAL HISTORY >> Do you consider yourself healthy? >> Do you currently suffer from any disease or illness? >> Have you previously suffered from any disease or illness? >> Do you currently use any medication? >> Have you had treatment with Steroids during the last year? >> Do you have any skin problem? >> >> This is common. There are a number of approaches. It is possible to >> provide >> a generic questionnaire archetype which allows the question to be >> provided >> as a textural statement with a Yes/No boolean with a possible text >> box as >> well for comments. >> >> Such an archetype can then be specialised for particular >> questionnaires like >> the one above - this is appropriate for questionnaires that will be >> used for >> decision support or used widely. These can then be translated. >> >> The openEHR template provides a way of adding texts to labels - >> this allows >> one-off questionnaires which are of uncertain meaning in the general >> interoperability space. The openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.risk- >> anaesthetic.v1.adl >> will give you an indication (activate the web lookup in the editor >> - tools - >> options - File locations = >> http://archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/services/ArchetypeFinderBean?wsdl >> and type in 'risk'. >> >> We will be moving to the new Knowledge Manager very soon on the >> openEHR site >> which should make accessing and commenting on archetypes a whole >> lot easier. >> >> >> I hope this helps, Sam >> >> .... >> Also we have other kinds of forms like SALIVARY GLAND DISEASE >> What areas were examined? >> What is the color of the skin/mucosa covering the salivary gland? >> Are there any signs of muscositis? >> ..... >> (I shows that there are two kinds of questions, one may be asked >> patient, >> one is for clinician herself to show what to examine or... ) >> >> This sort of questionnaire might be better set out as an >> examination entry >> rather than a questionnaire - although I can see why this might be >> helpful >> at times. The same applies as above - but we might see it as part >> of an >> examination - perhaps as a cluster (questionnaire form). >> >> well, There are some unsolved problems in my mind regarding these >> questions >> and the possibility to create Archetypes or Templates for >> these questionnaires like the one above. >> 1- Is this an appropriate design way for Archetypes to create >> Archetypes >> based on questions or actions that one may ask or may do during >> visit or >> treatment? >> >> We have to be careful not to force the archetypes to be too 'near >> user form' >> - people may have forms that are quite pedantic for a reason and >> then store >> the information differently. It is always possible to include the >> questionnaire if appropriate. >> >> 2- Can I map these questionnaires to Archetypes or they are more like >> Templates? >> >> As above - it depends on their processing and how wide the use is. >> >> 3- I have this methodology in my mind when I try to map things to >> openEHR >> concepts >> - What are the specifications on the disease I want to present , >> symptoms, >> signs, related guidelines,...(general knowledge about disease) >> - Which questions may I ask when a patient visits me? general >> patient data, >> patient medical history,... >> - Is there any protocol for data gathering? >> - What kind of treatments I may suggest, or any more data do I >> need? any >> related laboratory tests ? >> >> Here you can create a template that provides the means of >> streamlining data >> collection in each setting.... >> >> Finally, is it a proper way to think of creating an Archetype for a >> specific >> disease? >> >> In general, I do not think so - although burns and fractures are >> examples >> where you might want a specialisation (of diagnosis I guess). Usually >> templates are where you will provide the context specific data >> points. >> >> I know that I should first search for existing Archetypes and >> combine them >> to create Templates, but what if I cannot find any suitable >> Archetype for my >> case? >> >> Then you need to talk to us! You can try creating some archetypes and >> sharing them with the clinical group. >> Have a look on that web site above for 'question' and you will find >> some >> generic checklists and questionnaire archetypes. >> >> I should mention that all these efforts is to create a CDSS for a >> specific >> disease, so I need to be more specific in knowledge or data >> gathering. >> >> Let us know how it goes. >> >> Cheers, Sam >> >> Regards >> Paria >> PhD Student >> IDC | Interaction Design Collegium >> Department of Computing Science and Engineering >> Chalmers University of Technology >> Email: hajar.kashfi at chalmers.se >> Office:+46 (0)31 7725407 >> Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815 >> Postal adress: >> IT University of G?teborg >> 412 96 G?teborg, Sweden >> Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >> >> >> -- >> <OceanInformaticsl.JPG> >> Dr Sam Heard >> Chief Executive Officer >> Director, openEHR Foundation >> Senior Visiting Research Fellow, University College London >> 214 Victoria Avenue >> Chatswood, NSW, 2067 >> Phone: +61 2 9415 4994 >> Mobile: +61 4 1783 8808 21 Chester Cres >> London E8 2PH >> Phone: +44 20 7249 7085 >> Mobile: +44 77 9871 0980 >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >> >> PhD Student >> IDC | Interaction Design Collegium >> Department of Computing Science and Engineering >> Chalmers University of Technology >> Email: hajar.kashfi at chalmers.se >> Office:+46 (0)31 7725407 >> Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815 >> Postal adress: >> IT University of G?teborg >> 412 96 G?teborg, Sweden >> Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical at openehr.org >> http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical PhD Student IDC | Interaction Design Collegium Department of Computing Science and Engineering Chalmers University of Technology Email: hajar.kashfi at chalmers.se Office:+46 (0)31 7725407 Mobile Phone: +46 (0)707222815 Postal adress: IT University of G?teborg 412 96 G?teborg, Sweden Visit: Room Simula B, House Svea, Campus Lindholmen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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