Hi Paria,

 

I have just uploaded a tutorial to Ocean?s new website ? went live only
tonight;-)

I have just devised it recently for use in introductory training for
clinicians in building archetypes. 

This might be a useful starting point for you ?
http://www.oceaninformatics.com/ocean-informatics-resources/ocean-documentat
ion/Tutorials.html

 

I have been very slowly working on documenting a methodology but keep
getting diverted ? will let you know when I have something ready for
reading.

 

Regards

 

Heather

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of P?ria Kashfi
Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 6:30 PM
To: For openEHR technical discussions
Subject: Re: Creating Archetypes based on questionaire + methodology

 

As Sam wrote there are a number of approaches that help creating archetypes.
Is there any booked methodology or approach available? does anyone know any
useful reference for it?

 

Regards

paria

 

On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Sam Heard wrote:





Hi P?ria...

P?ria Kashfi wrote: 

It means that each clinician can create his/her own questionnaires.
(experiences in this project showed that they are eager to have their own
protocol including questionnaires and data they may access )there are some
forms, or templates that are more general including questions like this one
named GENERAL MEDICAL HISTORY

Do you consider yourself healthy?

Do you currently suffer from any disease or illness?

Have you previously suffered from any disease or illness?

Do you currently use any medication?

Have you had treatment with Steroids during the last year?

Do you have any skin problem?

This is common. There are a number of approaches. It is possible to provide
a generic questionnaire archetype which allows the question to be provided
as a textural statement with a Yes/No boolean with a possible text box as
well for comments.

Such an archetype can then be specialised for particular questionnaires like
the one above - this is appropriate for questionnaires that will be used for
decision support or used widely. These can then be translated.

The openEHR template provides a way of adding texts to labels - this allows
one-off questionnaires which are of uncertain meaning in the general
interoperability space. The openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.risk-anaesthetic.v1.adl
will give you an indication (activate the web lookup in the editor - tools -
options - File locations =
http://archetypes.com.au/archetypefinder/services/ArchetypeFinderBean?wsdl
and type in 'risk'.

We will be moving to the new Knowledge Manager very soon on the openEHR site
which should make accessing and commenting on archetypes a whole lot easier.


I hope this helps, Sam



....

Also we have other kinds of forms like SALIVARY GLAND DISEASE

What areas were examined?

What is the color of the skin/mucosa covering the salivary gland?

Are there any signs of muscositis?

.....

(I shows that there are two kinds of questions, one may be asked patient,
one is for clinician herself to show what to examine or... )

This sort of questionnaire might be better set out as an examination entry
rather than a questionnaire - although I can see why this might be helpful
at times. The same applies as above - but we might see it as part of an
examination - perhaps as a cluster (questionnaire form).



 

well, There are some unsolved problems in my mind regarding these questions
and the possibility to create Archetypes or Templates for these
questionnaires like the one above.

1- Is this an appropriate design way for Archetypes to create Archetypes
based on questions or actions that one may ask or may do during visit or
treatment?

We have to be careful not to force the archetypes to be too 'near user form'
- people may have forms that are quite pedantic for a reason and then store
the information differently. It is always possible to include the
questionnaire if appropriate.



2- Can I map these questionnaires to Archetypes or they are more like
Templates?

As above - it depends on their processing and how wide the use is.



3- I have this methodology in my mind when I try to map things to openEHR
concepts

 - What are the specifications on the disease I want to present , symptoms,
signs, related guidelines,...(general knowledge about disease)

 - Which questions may I ask when a patient visits me? general patient data,
patient medical history,...

 - Is there any protocol for data gathering?

 - What kind of treatments I may suggest, or any more data do I need? any
related laboratory tests ?

Here you can create a template that provides the means of streamlining data
collection in each setting....



 

Finally, is it a proper way to think of creating an Archetype for a specific
disease?

In general, I do not think so - although burns and fractures are examples
where you might want a specialisation (of diagnosis I guess). Usually
templates are where you will provide the context specific data points.



I know that I should first search for existing Archetypes and combine them
to create Templates, but what if I cannot find any suitable Archetype for my
case?

Then you need to talk to us! You can try creating some archetypes and
sharing them with the clinical group.
Have a look on that web site above for 'question' and you will find some
generic checklists and questionnaire archetypes.



I should mention that all these efforts is to create a CDSS for a specific
disease, so I need to be more specific in knowledge or data gathering.

Let us know how it goes.

Cheers, Sam



 

Regards

Paria

 

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