Jesus,
You have hit the nail on the head. What one needs is a solution. Something, as 
follows, is what most of us are looking for:

1. Download the exe, zip or rar file 
2. unRAR or unzip  and execute it
3. App runs and opens a help file.
4. Help file takes you thru the steps of set up users and permissions
5. Set up a few users load some patient data and get productive

Much later....

6. Take time out to read through the tutorials to tinker with the program to 
write clinical pathways, modify programming logic and  the UI.

Now that is what I would love.

With warm regards,

Dr D Lavanian
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jesus Bisbal 
  To: For openEHR technical discussions 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Wisdom of the Crowds


  Dear Tim,
      Following on Heathers email, I only wanted to stress the importance of 
bullet number 1: "after creating archetypes, now what?"
      But I fear that my "now what?" is rather different.
      I may not be completely up-to-speed, but I would say that the software 
released in openEHR, to date, does not allow to manage actual clinical data 
which adheres to these hundreds of archetypes available in the repository. I 
mean making persistent clinical data, which adheres to those archetypes, 
through the openEHR implementation. The persistent layer does not exist yet, or 
am I mistaken?
      A few months ago I was working on the java implementation of openEHR, and 
I exchanged a few emails with Rong.
      For people to be able to test and be interested in using openEHR, or 
another "two-level modeling" paradigm implementation for that matter, they need 
to be able to see it, and without the persistence layer, they can not see 
something actually somewhat usable (I'm sure it?s very useful, it?s just not 
usable right now).
      A very simple "hello world" example, showing the whole life cycle of a 
very, very simple EHR is essential, I believe. If it has been created over that 
last few months and I missed, please correct me.
      Best regards,

  Jes?s Bisbal 
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