Hi Thomas,
You are right there, government funds may be a way forward.
Of course, requesting funds to add a basic persistence layer to
OpenEHR will not be very appealing to any funding agency nowadays. But
anyway, we could try to sell the idea some other way, and hopefully get
that layer as a by product... and we are on to it.
But that does not mean that an "open source community" like OpenEHR
should not consider as a priority to release a simple version of a
working prototype for people to experiment with. No matter how simple
and low performance (and keep the fancy, fully-fledge, and high
performance implementations for sale... Ocean, etc).
Having a "reference implementation" which is a lot of code that no
one, besides the contributor, can actually test without a very, very
significant amount of programming effort, I?m not sure it's the best way
to promote an "open source community", or even the OpenEHR platform.
Lobby our governments is not a substitute for an open source
community to have a simple (no matter how simple, I insist) working
prototype as their priority. They are different things, really.
That?s my humble opinion, I could of course be completely mistaken.
All the best,
Jes?s
Thomas Beale wrote, on 03/02/2009 13:25:
> This is where you lobby your government to actually put some funds where
> it would help ;-)
>
> Dr Lavanian wrote:
>
>> Jesus,
>> You have hit the nail on the head. What one needs is a solution.
>> Something, as follows, is what most of us are looking for:
>>
>> 1. Download the exe, zip or rar file
>> 2. unRAR or unzip and execute it
>> 3. App runs and opens a help file.
>> 4. Help file takes you thru the steps of set up users and permissions
>> 5. Set up a few users load some patient data and get productive
>>
>> Much later....
>>
>> 6. Take time out to read through the tutorials to tinker with the
>> program to write clinical pathways, modify programming logic and the UI.
>>
>> Now that is what I would love.
>>
>> With warm regards,
>>
>> Dr D Lavanian
>> MBBS,MD
>> Certified HL7 Specialist
>> Member- American Medical Informatics Association
>> Member- HIMSS
>> Senior Consultant and Domain Expert - Healthcare Informatics and
>> TeleHealth
>> Former Vice President - Healthcare Products, Bilcare Ltd
>> Former Vice President - Software Division, AxSys Healthtech Ltd
>> Former Co-convener Sub committee on Standards , Governmental Task
>> force for Telemedicine
>> Former Vice President - Telemedicine (Technical), Apollo Hospitals Group
>> Former Deputy Director Medical Services, Indian Air Force
>> Mobile: +91-9970921266
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jesus Bisbal <mailto:jesus.bisbal at upf.edu>
>> *To:* For openEHR technical discussions
>> <mailto:openehr-technical at openehr.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 2:44 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Wisdom of the Crowds
>>
>> Dear Tim,
>> Following on Heathers email, I only wanted to stress the
>> importance of bullet number 1: "after creating archetypes, now what?"
>> But I fear that my "now what?" is rather different.
>> I may not be completely up-to-speed, but I would say that the
>> software released in openEHR, to date, does not allow to manage
>> actual clinical data which adheres to these hundreds of archetypes
>> available in the repository. I mean making persistent clinical
>> data, which adheres to those archetypes, through the openEHR
>> implementation. The persistent layer does not exist yet, or am I
>> mistaken?
>> A few months ago I was working on the java implementation of
>> openEHR, and I exchanged a few emails with Rong.
>> For people to be able to test and be interested in using
>> openEHR, or another "two-level modeling" paradigm implementation
>> for that matter, they need to be able to see it, and without the
>> persistence layer, they can not see something actually somewhat
>> usable (I'm sure it?s very _useful_, it?s just not _usable_ right
>> now).
>> A very simple "hello world" example, showing the whole life
>> cycle of a very, very simple EHR is essential, I believe. If it
>> has been created over that last few months and I missed, please
>> correct me.
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jes?s Bisbal
>>
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