Stef,
You may also wish to scan the proposed rules on standards in Part III:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-01-13/pdf/E9-31216.pdf
(sorry - couldn't find link to one with a "Federal Register" cover)

In relation to your quote - you will notice that they talk about "EHR 
technology".  The proposed rules in Part II of CFR vol 75 no 8 are 
about systems adoption and  measuring their use in clinical settings 
- much more than any focus the actual record content.  While 
interoperability is central to the idea of "meaningful use" it is 
pretty basic interoperability that is being sought - much of it at 
codeset level.  Some of us have spent years trying to emphasise these 
differences - but in the US they usually think of a "system" when you 
say "EHR" (as in the title of the former EHRVA - EHR Vendors Association).

On your comment about 13606 - it is my understanding that ONC is 
working hard to get their own local standards groups onto the same 
page.  It is unfortunate that proposed work such as the 13606/HL7 
implementation guide and continuing engagement with HL7 on clinical 
statement found their way onto the back burner as these were possible 
grounds in which openEHR might engage with US interests.  There are 
many people contributing to and guiding current DHHS/ONC 
deliberations - so it is not a question of convincing one person 
about the merits of 13606 - a large proportion of the US HIS vendor, 
standards, regulatory and health provider communities would need to 
be on board to have any success.

The most interesting recent development was the failure of HL7v3 
messaging to get a guernsey in the proposed standards;  however, CDA 
is strongly there in the form of CCD - but ASTM and the XML-heathens 
appear to have succeeded in their lobbying to get CCR back onto the 
list (it was omitted in some earlier drafts following extensive 
debate) - many would see CCR as a step away from true semantic 
interoperability.

As I am not from the US, I think I should butt out at this point and 
let others look at the documents for themselves - but thanks for 
raising the point Stef.


At 22:31 14/01/2010, you wrote:
>Is anybody following the current discussion in the US about the 
>meaningful use citeri and/or is anybody actively involved?
>
>The published criteria can be found here: 
><http://frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/PDFgate.cgi?WAISdocID=467405454267+0+2+0&WAISaction=retrieve>http://frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/PDFgate.cgi?WAISdocID=467405454267+0+2+0&WAISaction=retrieve
>
>Is just scanned it very quickly and one thing stroke me, this is 
>just a pre-definition.: 'In order for an EHR technology to be 
>eligible for certification it must first
>meet the definition of a qualified electronic health record. This 
>term will be defined by ONC in its upcoming interim final rule, and 
>we propose to use the definition of qualified electronic health 
>record adopted by ONC.'
>
>So it appears that the ONC final rule will set an important road 
>ahead for the coming decades. Is anybody promoting the benifits of 
>the 13606 standard and if not shouldn't we do that?
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Stef
>
>
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