Hi Laura, Thanks for the link. While I can navigate most of the links, I can't see the class diagrams. (I use google-Chrome)
Regards Russell On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Sato Laura (NHS CONNECTING FOR HEALTH) < laura.sato at nhs.net> wrote: > Hi Sam,**** > > ** ** > > I come to an HTML index page that provides a brief narrative and labelled > links to requirements, technical models, instances, etc. Maybe you could > let me know offline what application you are using (maybe it?s a browser > issue) or send me a screenshot of what you see.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers,**** > > Laura**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto: > openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Sam Heard > *Sent:* 10 October 2011 04:25 > > *To:* 'For openEHR technical discussions' > *Subject:* RE: openEHR Archetypes Development**** > > ** ** > > Hi Laura**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for the link. I am finding it very difficult to make head or tail of > the pages and what it all means.**** > > The pages appear to have a very basic 13606 element at the top and then a > heap of references including self references.**** > > ** ** > > Can you help at all?**** > > ** ** > > Cheers, Sam**** > > ** ** > > *From:* openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto: > openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Sato Laura (NHS > CONNECTING FOR HEALTH) > > *Sent:* Friday, 7 October 2011 11:34 PM > *To:* For openEHR technical discussions > *Subject:* RE: openEHR Archetypes Development**** > > ** ** > > In part in (a slow!) response to the discussion below, I?m pleased to > invite comments on the current draft detailed content models (based on 13606 > and using the SNOMED CT concept model) for Discharge Summary, now accessible > at > https://svn.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/svn/public/lra/PUB/discharge/content/index.html. > (Apologies for the certificate warning that you?ll be confronted with at > first.)**** > > ** ** > > For some background info, this work is still relatively rough ? it?s an > interim draft release that shows our first attempt to publish a full suite > of detailed requirements, technical models and instance examples for record > content. We?re aware of a few inconsistencies and gaps in the end-to-end > flow, but I?d still welcome any comments you might have time to send us ... > I?m hoping that we?ll release the next draft (based on comments received in > the next few weeks) in November.**** > > ** ** > > Best wishes,**** > > Laura**** > > ** ** > > --------------------------------------------------------**** > > Laura Sato**** > > Head, Logical Record Architecture**** > > ** ** > > Department of Health Informatics Directorate**** > > Technology Office, NHS Connecting for Health**** > > ** ** > > email: laura.sato at nhs.net**** > > mobile: (44) (0)7733 324 338**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto: > openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Eunice Ab > *Sent:* 03 June 2011 12:18 > *To:* For openEHR technical discussions > *Subject:* Re: openEHR Archetypes Development**** > > ** ** > > Dear Laura, Ian**** > > **** > > Many thanks for your emails. They have been so helpful .....**** > > **** > > Laura, I am going to take up the offer of contacting you to get to know > more about the 'central activities'. I will be in touch soon.**** > > **** > > Ian, I totally agree that most of the work done on data standards is > currently been hidden away behind the N3 firewall or through trud. We need > more accessible mechanisms for this work expecially for those that actually > need to use these standards locally.**** > > **** > > Hopefully this will be taken into consideration in current and future work. > **** > > **** > > Thanks again.**** > > **** > > Best regards**** > > **** > > Eunice**** > > **** > > On 3 June 2011 10:44, Ian McNicoll <Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com> > wrote:**** > > Thanks Laura, > > That is very helpful clarification. It is unfortunate that much of the > interesting work being done in the English NHS is 'hidden away' either > with the TRUD mechanism or in the case of the Clinical Data Standards > work, behind the N3 firewall. I know steps are being taken to address > these issues but it does present a significant barrier for those > outside the NHS. > > Regards,**** > > > Ian > > Dr Ian McNicoll > office +44 (0)1536 414 994 > +44 (0)2032 392 970 > fax +44 (0)1536 516317 > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > skype ianmcnicoll > ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org**** > > On 3 June 2011 10:28, Sato Laura (NHS CONNECTING FOR HEALTH)**** > > <laura.sato at nhs.net> wrote: > > Dear Eunice, > > > > > > > > For info, although NHS Data Standards & Products has worked with openEHR > > archetypes in the past, we are currently working on developing care > record > > content models that use the EN/ISO 13606 reference model and ISO 21090 > data > > types (both with a relationship to, but not exactly the same as, > openEHR?s > > technical infrastructure), alongside a modelling approach that seeks to > make > > as much use as possible of the SNOMED CT clinical concept hierarchy, as > well > > as re-usable ELEMENT models and terminology constraints. Do please feel > > free to get in touch with me, if you?d like more information about > current > > NHS ?central? activities in this area. > > > > > > > > We also continue communications with Thomas and Ian (and others) to > maintain > > links with the openEHR community, and hopefully will be able to provide a > > clearer picture of how NHS content and openEHR archetypes fit together in > > the coming months. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Laura Sato > > > > Head, Logical Record Architecture > > > > > > > > Department of Health Informatics Directorate > > > > Technology Office, NHS Connecting for Health > > > > > > > > email: laura.sato at nhs.net > > > > mobile: (44) (0)7733 324 338 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org > > [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Eunice Ab > > Sent: 19 May 2011 18:22 > > To: For openEHR technical discussions > > Subject: Re: openEHR Archetypes Development > > > > > > > > Dear Ian > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. > > > > > > > > I was thinking whether there was a centrally funded team dedicated to > > developing archetypes for data standard developers. I was wondering > > whether if one was involved in a development work for clinical systems > and > > notice that new archetypes are required, whether one could request for > the > > archetype development free. > > > > > > > > I can see this is not the way things work.... > > > > > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > > > > > Eunice > > > > On 19 May 2011 17:22, Ian McNicoll <Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eunice, > > > > > > > > There are a variety of ways in which archetype development can be > supported. > > Many of the archetypes currently on CKM have their origins in work > supported > > and funded by the English NHS. There are other people and places doing > > development, particularly NEHTA in Australia - > > see http://dcm.nehta.org.au/ckm/# <http://dcm.nehta.org.au/ckm/> who I > understand are funding both > > editorial and clinical review time. > > > > > > > > As you will see from my other reply, this is an emerging space and it is > > difficult to answer your question directly without knowing more about > what > > you are trying to do in the NHS context. By all means email me directly > if > > you want to discuss privately. I am based in the UK and reasonably > familiar > > with the various UK standards development efforts (for better or > worse!!). > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > Dr Ian McNicoll > > office +44 (0)1536 414 994 > > > > +44 (0)2032 392 970 > > fax +44 (0)1536 516317 > > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > > skype ianmcnicoll > > ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > > > Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK > > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > > BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org > > > > On 19 May 2011 16:26, Eunice Ab <euniceab at googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi All > > > > > > > > Wondering if you could help. > > > > > > > > I wanted to confirm whether one can request for archetype development for > > free if one does not currently exist. > > > > > > > > Are there any costs associated with this? > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > Eunice > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > openEHR-technical mailing list > > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > openEHR-technical mailing list > > openEHR-technical at openehr.org > > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > > > > This message may contain confidential information. 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