On 18.02.2014 16:48, Bert Verhees wrote:
> On 02/18/2014 03:52 PM, Sebastian Garde wrote:
>>
>> On 18.02.2014 14:56, Bert Verhees wrote:
>>> For example, in the OpenEHR, the idea was that CKM would serve the 
>>> world with archetypes, and there would be no need of a strong 
>>> archetypeId-system, because, all archetypes ever to be taken 
>>> seriously were in CKM.
>>> Now it is recognized that this is not the case, and the proposition 
>>> regarding archetypeIds changed. 
>> Hi Bert,
>> I think you would find a sufficient number of presentations and 
>> papers from me and others about managing archetypes from around the 
>> time when we started to work on CKM (2007) that would convince you 
>> that even then we were far more realistic as to say that the openEHR 
>> CKM will serve the world with archetypes.
>> We were and still are just striving towards the (lofty) aim to get as 
>> much agreement/convergence as possible as well as unite the archetype 
>> development efforts where possible.
>
> Hi Sebastian, I remember, it must be a year ago, how much problems I 
> had to convince this community that the archetypeId-system, which was 
> based on only a few serious archetypes worldwide, would not do.
>
> You also participated in this discussion. I started that discussion 
> about here:
> http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/2012-December/002797.html
>  
>
>
> Do you see how long ago it was, we needed to have this discussion? 
> Only a bit more then a year.
Hi Bert, I am not arguing with that, I am just pointing out that you are 
relating two things (CKM and the archetype ids) that are not related in 
the way you said.
If anything, the existence of several CKMs around the world now - which 
can all talk to each other to get each other's archetypes - /highlights 
/the need for a different archetype id system.

As for the one-archetype-per-concept-principle in that discussion you 
link to: It is what I said in other words above, the lofty aim to agree 
where possible. It is not one step, but rather a very long process with 
potentially many archetypes about the same concept in e.g. different 
regions/countries in the meantime (and likely more than one forever).
Sebastian

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