Hi Alejandro,

You have two choices ...

1. The 'correct' way to do this is to setup a separate demographics server,
either using a traditional database, or using an openEHR Demographics
server. I think there are a couple of suppliers who can provide this and it
would be very hard work to build your own. Let me know privately if you
want some further details.

2. The alternative (but not 'correct' openEHR), is to fold the demographics
into an EHR composition. There are a number of EHR-CLUSTER archetypes which
were built as we occasionally do have to carry some demographics inside the
EHR (carer details etc). If you look at
http://clinicalmodels.org.uk/ckm/#showProject_1051.61.4 you will see some
examples of this, used to record 'key contacts'.

Ian






On 21 March 2014 16:13, Alejandro Benavides <alejandro at acronymcr.com> wrote:

> Thank Pablo for you answer.
>
> We want store this information because the RIS, will start stored the
> information demographic patients and not will have way make query to a MPI.
> Maybe we need to provide in this projeThank Pablo for you answer.
>
> We want store this information because the RIS, will start stored the
> information demographic patients and not will have way make query to a MPI.
> Maybe we need to provide in this project an MPI, but this is not even
> considered yet. So, the RIS need keep this information.
>
> The RIS will work with different models of health, as it will be part of a
> "radiological ring" as a service in several countries and possibly the app
> will need to adapt not only demographic information, but also in workflow
> and radiological information as reports MPI, but this is not even
> considered yet. So, the RIS need keep this information. The app will need
> to adapt not only demographic information, but also in workflow and
> radiological information as reports.
>
> What then would be the recommendation on the use of archetypes?
>
>
> 2014-03-20 19:32 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>
>  Don't know if I fully understand your question... as you said, these are
>> use to model demographic data, so use them for that.
>>
>> I'll go back a little: where do you want to store demographics in your
>> RIS and for what (for reports, for scheduling, as MPI, ...)? Maybe knowing
>> your specific requirements we can help you on when to use those archetypes.
>>
>> If I were developing a RIS, I would use archetypes and templates to model
>> imaginology reports, and use demographic archetypes to model the
>> demographic part of the reports. That way I can store reports and
>> demographics in an openEHR repo (i.e. an archetype enabled repository).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
>> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:17:41 -0600
>>
>> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
>> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
>> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>>
>> Sorry,
>> When I should use these archetypes?
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-20 10:06 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> Sorry, what's "cases archetypes"?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
>> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:42:34 -0600
>> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
>>
>> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
>> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>>
>> Thanks Pablo.
>> So, for cases archetypes need these archetypes? (Those who put in the
>> first post).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-18 16:13 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi, you can use plain archetypes since there's no need to create a
>> composition to store patient demographics. I.e. there's no need to create a
>> template to group the demographic information. You'll need a template for
>> exaple to represent radiology report documents.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
>> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:53:13 -0600
>> Subject: Archetype for patient demographics.
>> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
>> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> We are developing a RIS, which eo archetypes should be used to record
>> patient demographics?
>>
>> We have reviewed the following archetypes in openEHR CKM of:
>> * - Patients (Model Arquetype)
>> * - Person name (Archetype Model)
>> * - Person data (Structure)
>> * - Person name (Arquetype)
>>
>> They should build a template with these? We should use just one? We would
>> appreciate recommendations.
>>
>> regards
>>
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