Precisely for this reason we want to work with archetypes. My question
remains, openEHR archetype provides classes to maintain demographic
information or we must create own models from archetypes?


2014-03-21 12:44 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:

> Not yet, but I have that in my TODO list!
>
> What I will do in the future is to separate the clinical and demographic
> parts of EHRServer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-hs-Ofb8SY) so we'll
> have a pure EHRServer and a DemographicServer, both based on REST services
> and supporting openEHR archetypes / OPTs 1.4.
>
> I may propose this as a student project in the engineering university here
> in Montevideo, because right now I don't have much development time. Last
> year I proposed a GUI generation project to improve what EHRGen does right
> now, but to generate UIs for different technologies (HTML5, .Net web &
> desktop, Java Swing, etc.). After we present the paper, I will propose the
> UITemplate model to the community to evaluate if it can be integrated in
> the future to the openEHR stack (I'm very excited about this!)
>
> The idea of the DemographicServer is to emulate IHE PIX/PDQ profiles with
> openEHR data to simplify future integration with IHE enabled systems.
>
> BTW, is really easy to extend EHRGen to add demographic data support, just
> need to add the model classes (Person, Group, etc.), the data binder and
> the UI gen for demographic classes fields.
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ian at mcmi.co.uk
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 17:14:56 +0000
>
> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
> Does your software stack support DEMOGRAPHIC class archetypes?
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 21 March 2014 16:51, pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would recommend to use archetypes if you now that your data schema will
> change in the future.
>
> E.g. if your system design is based on archetypes, it can allow to change
> archetypes and store different kinds of information adding or removing
> stuff from archetypes. This is the approach of EHRGen to generate UI and
> store data: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqFTU2RC7eI
>
> If you know that data schema will not change in the future, you might use
> archetypes not in the system itself, but for two purposes: 1. communicate
> data to other systems in openEHR format, 2. specification of the design, as
> a communication tool that you can show to others to understand your
> system's design.
>
> If not used directly by the system, archetypes are great for requirement
> gathering and specification.
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:13:49 -0600
>
> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
> Thank Pablo for you answer.
>
> We want store this information because the RIS, will start stored the
> information demographic patients and not will have way make query to a MPI.
> Maybe we need to provide in this projeThank Pablo for you answer.
>
> We want store this information because the RIS, will start stored the
> information demographic patients and not will have way make query to a MPI.
> Maybe we need to provide in this project an MPI, but this is not even
> considered yet. So, the RIS need keep this information.
>
> The RIS will work with different models of health, as it will be part of a
> "radiological ring" as a service in several countries and possibly the app
> will need to adapt not only demographic information, but also in workflow
> and radiological information as reports MPI, but this is not even
> considered yet. So, the RIS need keep this information. The app will need
> to adapt not only demographic information, but also in workflow and
> radiological information as reports.
>
> What then would be the recommendation on the use of archetypes?
>
>
> 2014-03-20 19:32 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>
> Don't know if I fully understand your question... as you said, these are
> use to model demographic data, so use them for that.
>
> I'll go back a little: where do you want to store demographics in your RIS
> and for what (for reports, for scheduling, as MPI, ...)? Maybe knowing your
> specific requirements we can help you on when to use those archetypes.
>
> If I were developing a RIS, I would use archetypes and templates to model
> imaginology reports, and use demographic archetypes to model the
> demographic part of the reports. That way I can store reports and
> demographics in an openEHR repo (i.e. an archetype enabled repository).
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:17:41 -0600
>
> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
> Sorry,
> When I should use these archetypes?
>
>
> 2014-03-20 10:06 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>
> Sorry, what's "cases archetypes"?
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:42:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: Archetype for patient demographics.
>
> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
> Thanks Pablo.
> So, for cases archetypes need these archetypes? (Those who put in the
> first post).
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2014-03-18 16:13 GMT-06:00 pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com>:
>
> Hi, you can use plain archetypes since there's no need to create a
> composition to store patient demographics. I.e. there's no need to create a
> template to group the demographic information. You'll need a template for
> exaple to represent radiology report documents.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
> http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home><http://twitter.com/ppazos>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:53:13 -0600
> Subject: Archetype for patient demographics.
> From: alejandro at acronymcr.com
> To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
>
> Hi.
>
> We are developing a RIS, which eo archetypes should be used to record
> patient demographics?
>
> We have reviewed the following archetypes in openEHR CKM of:
> * - Patients (Model Arquetype)
> * - Person name (Archetype Model)
> * - Person data (Structure)
> * - Person name (Arquetype)
>
> They should build a template with these? We should use just one? We would
> appreciate recommendations.
>
> regards
>
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