So we all would probably benefit from creating some copy and paste examples for common 3rd party attribution that can be easily incorporated into archetypes / resources.
Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office +44 (0)1536 414 994 fax +44 (0)1536 516317 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director openEHR Foundation www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org On 13 November 2014 09:24, Grahame Grieve <grahame at healthintersections.com.au> wrote: > you do not need to pay, but the licensing requirements are quite specific > about what kind of attribution is required. > > Grahame > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Stefan Sauermann > <sauermann at technikum-wien.at> wrote: >> >> Hello! >> We are using LOINC in Austria for coding lab results on a national scale. >> As far as I know nobody needs to pay anything to Regenstrief to do so. >> >> I am not aware of any "must mention Regenstrief" requirements, but I may >> miss something. >> Greetings from Vienna, >> Stefan >> >> Stefan Sauermann >> >> Program Director >> Biomedical Engineering Sciences (Master) >> >> University of Applied Sciences Technikum Wien >> Hoechstaedtplatz 5, 1200 Vienna, Austria >> P: +43 1 333 40 77 - 988 >> M: +43 664 6192555 >> E: stefan.sauermann at technikum-wien.at >> >> I: www.technikum-wien.at/mbe >> I: www.technikum-wien.at/ibmt >> I: www.healthy-interoperability.at >> >> Am 13.11.2014 10:07, schrieb Grahame Grieve: >> >> my advice from LOINC/regenstrief is that it does apply >> >> Grahame >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Thomas Beale >> <thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Something that has become clear in CIMI, and will affect openEHR, 13606 >>> and most likely any archetype developer is that acknowledgements of 3rd >>> party copyrights and trademarks need to be made. The most obvious common one >>> is likely to be for SNOMED CT codes in archetype bindings (Stan Huff at >>> Intermountain is still working on whether such acknowledgements are needed >>> for LOINC codes). However, it could be for anything, e.g. rights to use a >>> scale like Barthel or Waterlow. >>> >>> At the moment there is no dedicated place in the model for this >>> particular meta-data. It could just go in 'other_details' but I suspect that >>> we need to be more precise than that. Consider for example, the openEHR >>> Barthel scale archetype - it currently carries this text in the 'Use' >>> section: >>> >>> Note: >>> The Maryland State Medical Society holds the copyright for the Barthel >>> Index. It may be used freely for non-commercial purposes with the following >>> citation: >>> Mahoney FI, Barthel D. ?Functional evaluation: the Barthel Index.? >>> Maryland State Med Journal 1965;14:56-61. Used with permission. >>> >>> Permission is required to modify the Barthel Index or to use it for >>> commercial purposes. >>> >>> This seems less than optimal, and is certainly not going to be reliably >>> tool-separable from the main 'Use' content, since the word 'Note:' and the >>> placement of this text are purely local choices. >>> >>> There is another issue here. The acknowledgement text actually included >>> in the archetype needs to be minimal, and as far as legally possible not >>> contain volatile elements that can change. Therefore, I think the general >>> approach needs to be as is typically done with open source licences: not >>> including the whole text, but including a reliable URL to the licence text >>> either from the issuer (e.g. Creative Commons CC-BY page) or an agreement >>> between the publisher and the licensor (e.g. between IHTSDO and CIMI for the >>> use of SNOMED CT, and details of that use). >>> >>> I have updated the meta-data page on the wiki to indicate what I think is >>> the requirement - see end of the main table. >>> >>> I am increasingly of the feeling that we need to act on this soon. >>> >>> - thomas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openEHR-clinical mailing list >>> openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org >>> >>> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ----- >> http://www.healthintersections.com.au / grahame at healthintersections.com.au >> / +61 411 867 065 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-clinical mailing list >> openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org >> >> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org >> >> > > > > -- > ----- > http://www.healthintersections.com.au / grahame at healthintersections.com.au > / > +61 411 867 065 > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
