Oh, and if the above link fails you can try the mirror
http://diebosto2.pc.upv.es:8888/SnomedQuery/

2016-12-04 18:25 GMT+01:00 Bert Verhees <[email protected]>:
> Hi Diego, your link does not work.
>
> But I am replying for another reason.
>
> I think that subsumption testing in archetypes is not feasible when the
> archetypes are not covered by SNOMED.
> This is because SNOMED subsumption testing is only valid inside the SNOMED
> definitions.
>
> The system of specialized archetypes and parent archetypes (without the use
> of SNOMED) is a parallel system in its own semantic world, which cannot be
> mixed with the SNOMED semantics, so there will be no automatic subsumption
> testing.
>
> OpenEHR will need to implement SNOMED if you want to do what Ian proposed as
> an example:
> "e.g Give me any patients with a problem/diagnosis of diabetes mellitus type
> 2 or children. i.e is_a relationships"
>
> When you want to use advantages of SNOMED, you must not mix up a parallel
> world to SNOMED with SNOMED.
> This could lead to dangerous situations.
>
> Bert
>
>
>
> On 04-12-16 18:00, Diego Boscá wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> We have been working on this from several perspectives. We have been
> mostly focused in providing terminology binding support for
> archetypes, and first efforts were focused in providing term and
> subset bindings via external terminology services (such as ITServer)
>
> Lately we have implemented a Snomed expression syntax engine (for both
> parsing and executing) called SNQuery (http://snquery.veratech.es) and
> we are using it instead, as provides more flexibility.
>
> Having Snomed expression syntax queries as value bindings in
> archetypes allows to easily create queries for data validation ("this
> code should be an allergy" or "the text of this coded text should be
> one of the synonyms of the code") and data transformation (to have
> conditional data transformation functions such as "if the diagnosis is
> a cancer diagnosis then A else B"). We mostly use subset membership
> queries, but I assume that subsumption testing will be handy in
> archetype specialization definition (subsets in the specialized
> archetypes must be a subset of the ones in the parent archetype).
>
> Regards
>
> 2016-12-02 9:50 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karlsson <[email protected]>:
>
> Dear All,
>
> while thinking about terminology server requirements for openEHR systems
> I would like to ask all openEHR implementers about experiences of
> different solutions. Are there any experiences of using openEHR systems
> with e.g. the FHIR terminology services, CTS2, Ocean TQL, homebrew, etc?
> What are the use cases when the terminology servers are used (e.g.
> design time, data entry, querying, etc.)? What are the "terminological
> queries" that are used/needed (e.g. subsumption testing, subset
> membership, subset expansion, etc.)?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> --
>
> Daniel Karlsson, PhD, sr lecturer
> Department of Biomedical Engineering/Health informatics
> Linköping university
> SE-58185 Linköping
> Sweden
> Ph. +46 708350109, Skype: imt_danka, Hangout: [email protected]
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