Oh, and if the above link fails you can try the mirror http://diebosto2.pc.upv.es:8888/SnomedQuery/
2016-12-04 18:25 GMT+01:00 Bert Verhees <[email protected]>: > Hi Diego, your link does not work. > > But I am replying for another reason. > > I think that subsumption testing in archetypes is not feasible when the > archetypes are not covered by SNOMED. > This is because SNOMED subsumption testing is only valid inside the SNOMED > definitions. > > The system of specialized archetypes and parent archetypes (without the use > of SNOMED) is a parallel system in its own semantic world, which cannot be > mixed with the SNOMED semantics, so there will be no automatic subsumption > testing. > > OpenEHR will need to implement SNOMED if you want to do what Ian proposed as > an example: > "e.g Give me any patients with a problem/diagnosis of diabetes mellitus type > 2 or children. i.e is_a relationships" > > When you want to use advantages of SNOMED, you must not mix up a parallel > world to SNOMED with SNOMED. > This could lead to dangerous situations. > > Bert > > > > On 04-12-16 18:00, Diego Boscá wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > We have been working on this from several perspectives. We have been > mostly focused in providing terminology binding support for > archetypes, and first efforts were focused in providing term and > subset bindings via external terminology services (such as ITServer) > > Lately we have implemented a Snomed expression syntax engine (for both > parsing and executing) called SNQuery (http://snquery.veratech.es) and > we are using it instead, as provides more flexibility. > > Having Snomed expression syntax queries as value bindings in > archetypes allows to easily create queries for data validation ("this > code should be an allergy" or "the text of this coded text should be > one of the synonyms of the code") and data transformation (to have > conditional data transformation functions such as "if the diagnosis is > a cancer diagnosis then A else B"). We mostly use subset membership > queries, but I assume that subsumption testing will be handy in > archetype specialization definition (subsets in the specialized > archetypes must be a subset of the ones in the parent archetype). > > Regards > > 2016-12-02 9:50 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karlsson <[email protected]>: > > Dear All, > > while thinking about terminology server requirements for openEHR systems > I would like to ask all openEHR implementers about experiences of > different solutions. Are there any experiences of using openEHR systems > with e.g. the FHIR terminology services, CTS2, Ocean TQL, homebrew, etc? > What are the use cases when the terminology servers are used (e.g. > design time, data entry, querying, etc.)? What are the "terminological > queries" that are used/needed (e.g. subsumption testing, subset > membership, subset expansion, etc.)? > > Thanks, > Daniel > > -- > > Daniel Karlsson, PhD, sr lecturer > Department of Biomedical Engineering/Health informatics > Linköping university > SE-58185 Linköping > Sweden > Ph. +46 708350109, Skype: imt_danka, Hangout: [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org _______________________________________________ openEHR-technical mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org

