On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:59 AM Peter Kjellerstedt
<peter.kjellerst...@axis.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org <openembedded-
> > c...@lists.openembedded.org> On Behalf Of Richard Purdie
> > Sent: den 3 december 2021 11:07
> > To: Andre McCurdy <armccu...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ross Burton <r...@burtonini.com>; OE Core mailing list <openembedded-
> > c...@lists.openembedded.org>
> > Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH v2 2/2] vim: set PACKAGECONFIG idiomatically
> >
> > On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 01:39 -0800, Andre McCurdy wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:33 PM Richard Purdie
> > > <richard.pur...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 13:45 -0800, Andre McCurdy wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 1:20 PM Ross Burton <r...@burtonini.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 19:32, Andre McCurdy <armccu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > This isn't equivalent - it will cause a change in behaviour for
> > anyone
> > > > > > > using PACKAGECONFIG += "foo" from a .bbappend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Correct, but this is likely the only recipe in the greater
> > ecosystem
> > > > > > which has this behaviour, so I'm not that bothered to be honest.
> > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > The only recipe? There are many recipes which set a default
> > > > > PACKAGECONFIG with ?= and many which set it with ??=. Your change is
> > > > > effectively switching the vim recipe from one approach to the other.
> > > > > The fact that adding PACKAGECONFIG options from a .bbappend with +=
> > > > > sometimes works OK and sometimes not is a source of confusion for
> > new
> > > > > users.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are right that no one seems to care though...
> > > >
> > > > Some of us very much do care, it is actually bothering me a lot and
> > I've posted
> > > > several times on the architecture list about this kind of issue.
> > > >
> > > > We haven't worked out what we can agree to do about it though :(.
> > >
> > > As a first, very easy, step, make a statement here on the mailing list
> > > that all PACKAGECONFIG defaults should be assigned with ?= instead of
> > > ??= and fix the recipes in oe-core accordingly.
> >
> > The question is whether we all agree on that and I'm not sure we all do.
>
> I definitely agree that using "??=" in the recipe for PACKAGECONFIG is
> a bad idea. In all our own recipes we use "=" so that is what I would
> prefer, but "?=" is ok and it would alleviate the need to use
> PACKAGECONFIG:append in bbappends instead of "PACKAGECONFIG +=".
>
> The reason I think "=" is better than "?=" is that if you want to
> override the PACKAGECONFIG in a bbappend, using "=" a second time will
> work fine, and if you want to do the override in a configuration file
> like local.conf, you would use PACKAGECONFIG:pn-foo, which also would
> override whatever the recipe set using "=". So unless I am missing a
> use case, there really isn't a need to use "?=".

Using = would certainly be OK and an improvement over the current
mess. The reason I'd still argue that ?= is better is that it gives a
clear hint that PACKAGECONFIG values in recipes are something a user
may want to review and consider changing.
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