On Thu, 2026-07-02 at 14:34 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Thu, 2026-07-02 at 13:19 +0000, Daniel Turull wrote:
> > On Thu, 2026-07-02 at 13:03 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 at 11:55, Mathieu Dubois-Briand
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I suspect we had the same issue with v2, we just have been a
> > > > bit
> > > > (un)lucky as it never ran on a Debian 11 worker.
> > > 
> > > Debian 11 has host glibc that is too old for systemd. There are
> > > other
> > > distros that use an even older glibc, and they do not fail
> > > because
> > > they use buildtools. So we need to adjust the autobuilder to
> > > start
> > > using buildtools on debian 11 as well.
> > > 
> > > Alex
> > 
> > Yes, I can reproduce th problems with glibc on debian 11.
> > 
> > I have tested inside a debian 11 container and using buildtools-
> > extendend-tarball should fix the issue.
> 
> If we start putting buildtools everywhere, we may as well just stop
> testing on most of the distros :(.
> 
> I'm already worried about the implications of buildtools on RHEL9
> derivatives :(.
> 

In the case of Debian 11, EOL is August 2026.
https://www.debian.org/releases/

And without buildtools I was getting a different error than the
autobuilder, so probably a few things broke.

Is it worth the effort to put into make it compile with Debian 11 for 2
months, while there is the option to use buildtools-extended and works
ok?

Could we mark in the supported distro, which ones required buildtools?
then maybe is reduces the load on the testing?

We run buildtools-extendend on our rhel8. It isolate problems and maybe
it should be a guideline if you use old distros to build it with
buildtools-extended.

Cheers,

Daniel

> Cheers,
> 
> Richard

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