Hello,
The payslip handles specific variables like this with the "Other Inputs"
section
which is filled automatically according to the variables used in the
salary rules.
We use this for rules like:
- payment commissions on salesman
- special allowances/deductions...
I would just put the exact same table on the employee contract that will
just fill
the default values of the Other Input section of the payslip. It defines
variables
that are used by salary rules.
On 02/10/12 18:38, Daniel Reis wrote:
I have the following suggestions:
- name the class as "class hr_payroll_employee_rules", so it
encompasses both deductions and allowances.
- you'll need also 'value': fields.float ... Note that this usually
will hold a currency amount, but is same cases you might need it to
represent a quantity.
As for the ytd_occurence and ytd_amount, I probably would skip them
right now.
Probably mos cases can be handled the the start - end dates.
IMHO this sort of calculation should be a feature of the payroll rule
engine, but that's a whole new problem...
Regarding the date ranges, date fields are represented by the ORM as
'yyyy-mm-dd' strings,so there sould be no problem.
DR
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Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Payroll - Personal Deductions
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:13:48 -0400
CC: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Daniel and list, to clarify further and incorporate your suggestions
could add the following:
Add class hr_payroll_employee_deductions with the columns:
'name': fields.char
'code': fields.char
'employee_id': fields.many2one
'ytd_amount': fields.function('_get_ytd_amount', etc, etc),
'ytd_occurence': fields.function('_get_ytd_occurence', etc, etc),
'date_start': fields.date
'date_end': fields.date
This would be available on the employee or contract form, and country
specific defaults could be loaded with 0 amounts.
Include functions _get_ytd_occurence, _get_ytd_amount. Also add a
function to return a browseable object based on the code, although I
think this may require overwriting browse() instead (?). Or I might be
able to just add an additional field which returns a browseable object
or dictionary of the values.
To the Available Variables (hr_payroll) add employee_deductions that
will allow use of employee_deductions.X.ytd_amount,
employee_deductions.X.date_start, etc (where X is the code from
hr_payroll_employee_deductions). With that approach, you could add
rules with Condition based on: Range and the range based on date or a
minimum/maximum of YTD amount. I haven't tried using the range for
dates or looked at the function so it may also require modification.
The only issue I can see with this is that all unique deductions would
need to have a corresponding rule within the salary structure, but
there should be a limited number of deductions.
On 2012-10-02, at 9:48 AM, Daniel Reis <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My explanation was not very clear, I'm sorry.
AFAIK, Salary Rules are declared in Salary Structures.
You can't associate a Salary Rule directly to an Employee.
Closest thing you can do is to create a specific Salary Structure
for that person. It'll do the job, but I think it's rather clumsy.
I feel that the possibility to also associate Salary Rules
directly with Contracts/Employees would allow to solve this issue.
This way it would be easy, for example, to add a specific fixed
deduction to an employee.
Additionally, if it includes a "date from" and "date to", or a
"number of occurrences", it could the user with the cases where
the deductions are to be made during a 4 month period or in the
next 3 payslips.
Regards
Daniel Reis
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From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:06:33 -0400
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Payroll - Personal Deductions
Not sure I'm following. Wouldn't that be the same as the existing
Salary Rules, since you'd need to enter a separate one per
employee? I think the one additional requirement that you
mentioned (and I'm looking into) is have a different cycle than
the actual pay cycle - for example a deduction/allowance could be
made once monthly when the pay cycle is weekly.
My thinking for country specific variables add single fields to
the employee object and a single salary rule that uses that field
for all employees that require it. I realize that's likely a
country specific way of doing it, but it could be added to
whatever rules are standard for that country as the local payroll
module.
Does that make sense, or were you thinking something else?
On 2012-10-02, at 8:42 AM, Daniel Reis <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In my experience, typical payroll sw has a "Fixed Values"
table and "Variable Values" table (weekly, monthly, etc)
associated with employees.
To add a fixed allowance to an employee you just add a row
woth the code, value and date period.
If anyone is willing to add such a feature to OpenERP I'm
willing to help.
Regards
Daniel Reis
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:16:29 +0800
From:[email protected]
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To:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Payroll - Personal Deductions
Adding a field in the employee or contract and referring to it
in the payroll rules is probably the easiest.
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On 10/02/2012 08:45 AM, John Boyle wrote:
Hi folks,
Just wondering what's the best way to handle personal deductions
for payroll? Specifically, I'm referring to cases where there's a deduction for
many/most employees but the amount differs by employee.
Adding a specific rule for each employees deduction seems a little
tedious. Should a field be added to the Employee or Contract and a single rule
used? Or is there a better way?
Thanks!
John
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