Robert & Tom,

Regardless of the merits of this particular change, I agree with Vishal &
Luis that this is a failure of communication. The weather process needed to
have been followed - with the possibility for downstream projects to not
accept the change for legitimate reasons. Please do so in the future.

The most ideal solution as suggested by Luis below & initially agreed by
Tom would have been to back out the change, discuss it completely (in a the
TWS call) and go ahead with the decision after the TWS call. As it stands,
and pointed by Tom, backing out the change looks to be a daunting task.
Since that is the case, let us do the following:
0) Unblock the projects by whatever means - whether it is projects merging
the changes to accommodate the original patch or reverting
1) Robert, please create the weather report with the existing change
2)  in the meantime people can chime in on the thread and try to resolve it
3) we WILL continue the discussion on the Monday TWS if this is not
resolved by Monday. Casey has this meeting scheduled in any case.

Thanks,
Abhijit

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Tom Pantelis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Vishal Thapar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Could you please take a look at tell what I need to fix this breakage? I
>> am still not sure why is such a basic code breaking like this.
>>
>
>
> Perhaps we should just revert the mdsal patch until this can get sorted
> out downstream - maybe discuss on the TSC call today .
>
>
> +1, without knowing the technical details of the change, I think we are
> missing something fundamental in the upstream-downstream communication: in
> general for any valid change coming from upstream breaking downstream we
> need a weather report including explanation why the change is required and
> some pointers on how to fix the potential failures. This gives a chance for
> downstream projects to evaluate and accept the change as well as to prepare
> the required patches to minimize the impact. If the breakage was
> unintentional or unexpected (no weather fired), I think the right thing to
> do is to revert and start over writing the weather report.
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vishal.
>>
>>
>>
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