> On Apr 20, 2018, at 3:22 AM, Michael Vorburger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Luis Gomez <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> FYI I just opened a grievance to remind what we did today is exceptional and 
> to be avoided in future:
> 
> https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/TSC-92 
> <https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/TSC-92>
> 
> I've commented in TSC-92 arguing that I'm struggling to understand how "it 
> stands, and pointed by Tom, backing out the change looks to be a daunting 
> task"…

Please ask Tom P and Robert, both said during TSC call it was lot of work to 
revert, in addition nobody except Anil saw any problem wth the patch so that 
was the other reason it went through.

> 
> Tx,
> M.
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>  
> BR/Luis
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Added the TSC.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Robert & Tom,
>> 
>> Regardless of the merits of this particular change, I agree with Vishal & 
>> Luis that this is a failure of communication. The weather process needed to 
>> have been followed - with the possibility for downstream projects to not 
>> accept the change for legitimate reasons. Please do so in the future. 
>> 
>> The most ideal solution as suggested by Luis below & initially agreed by Tom 
>> would have been to back out the change, discuss it completely (in a the TWS 
>> call) and go ahead with the decision after the TWS call. As it stands, and 
>> pointed by Tom, backing out the change looks to be a daunting task. Since 
>> that is the case, let us do the following:
>> 0) Unblock the projects by whatever means - whether it is projects merging 
>> the changes to accommodate the original patch or reverting
>> 1) Robert, please create the weather report with the existing change 
>> 2)  in the meantime people can chime in on the thread and try to resolve it
>> 3) we WILL continue the discussion on the Monday TWS if this is not resolved 
>> by Monday. Casey has this meeting scheduled in any case.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Abhijit
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Luis Gomez <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Tom Pantelis <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Vishal Thapar <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> 
>>> Could you please take a look at tell what I need to fix this breakage? I am 
>>> still not sure why is such a basic code breaking like this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we should just revert the mdsal patch until this can get sorted out 
>>> downstream - maybe discuss on the TSC call today . 
>> 
>> +1, without knowing the technical details of the change, I think we are 
>> missing something fundamental in the upstream-downstream communication: in 
>> general for any valid change coming from upstream breaking downstream we 
>> need a weather report including explanation why the change is required and 
>> some pointers on how to fix the potential failures. This gives a chance for 
>> downstream projects to evaluate and accept the change as well as to prepare 
>> the required patches to minimize the impact. If the breakage was 
>> unintentional or unexpected (no weather fired), I think the right thing to 
>> do is to revert and start over writing the weather report.
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Vishal.
>>> 
>>> 
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