On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:

> FYI I just opened a grievance to remind what we did today is exceptional
> and to be avoided in future:
>
> https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/TSC-92
>

I've commented in TSC-92 arguing that I'm struggling to understand how "it
stands, and pointed by Tom, backing out the change looks to be a daunting
task"...

Tx,
M.
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> BR/Luis
>
> On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Added the TSC.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Robert & Tom,
>>
>> Regardless of the merits of this particular change, I agree with Vishal &
>> Luis that this is a failure of communication. The weather process needed to
>> have been followed - with the possibility for downstream projects to not
>> accept the change for legitimate reasons. Please do so in the future.
>>
>> The most ideal solution as suggested by Luis below & initially agreed by
>> Tom would have been to back out the change, discuss it completely (in a the
>> TWS call) and go ahead with the decision after the TWS call. As it stands,
>> and pointed by Tom, backing out the change looks to be a daunting task.
>> Since that is the case, let us do the following:
>> 0) Unblock the projects by whatever means - whether it is projects
>> merging the changes to accommodate the original patch or reverting
>> 1) Robert, please create the weather report with the existing change
>> 2)  in the meantime people can chime in on the thread and try to resolve
>> it
>> 3) we WILL continue the discussion on the Monday TWS if this is not
>> resolved by Monday. Casey has this meeting scheduled in any case.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Abhijit
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Tom Pantelis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Vishal Thapar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please take a look at tell what I need to fix this breakage?
>>>> I am still not sure why is such a basic code breaking like this.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should just revert the mdsal patch until this can get sorted
>>> out downstream - maybe discuss on the TSC call today .
>>>
>>>
>>> +1, without knowing the technical details of the change, I think we are
>>> missing something fundamental in the upstream-downstream communication: in
>>> general for any valid change coming from upstream breaking downstream we
>>> need a weather report including explanation why the change is required and
>>> some pointers on how to fix the potential failures. This gives a chance for
>>> downstream projects to evaluate and accept the change as well as to prepare
>>> the required patches to minimize the impact. If the breakage was
>>> unintentional or unexpected (no weather fired), I think the right thing to
>>> do is to revert and start over writing the weather report.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vishal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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