On Friday, 12 de November de 2010 13:16:39 tobias.hun...@nokia.com wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> Could be get back to establishing a more open process first before deciding
> on how/whether to merge stuff back and forth?

But deciding on how to merge stuff is so much fun... :-)

It's the pure bike shed principle. No one wants to discuss the plans for the 
nuclear power plant.

> So far there is nothing to merge and I am afraid this will stay that way if
> we waste more time. We did promise "open governance" in June and we did
> take some steps into that direction (most notable the reduction of the
> delay between external and internal git!). But we are approaching
> Christmas now and so far we have not even managed to come up with a
> plan:-/ We really need to do something or we will loose credibility.

Plans are in the works.

We had an entire day workshop today discussing this and gathering feedback 
from the many different parts of the organisation. It appears that we know well 
what the model for the patch workflow will be and we know what we want the 
tooling to do (see the original post on this thread). After discussing a bit 
with Cristy, we also have a plan on how to keep the legal obligations satisfied 
without interfering too much in the daily workflow.

However, we're completely in the dark when it comes to release management. If 
you go back to the earlier threads here, it's one of the topics where there 
was the least discussion.

We had the workshop so we can move on to the next phase: implementing this. We 
need to know who needs to do what, when, and what they need to accomplish 
that. I've received many offers of help from people -- and thank you all for 
that -- but in the end I'm just one person and making these plans are hard 
work. The good news is that we're likely getting external help to do that.

If you want to help, here are a couple of things you can do:

- ensure that the wiki page is detailed with what we have consensus on, like 
Tor Arne's plans

- go back to the list of topics I posted in the first days and see if we have 
any sort of conclusion

- if we don't, reopen the discussion and try to steer it to conclusions

- talk to your co-workers and see if they know about Open Governance, help 
them understand the why, the what and the value in this (if you don't know 
yourself, ask me)

On topics where there is no conclusion, we'll assume the the bike shed - power 
plant principle and probably simply implement what works best for us.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) nokia.com
  Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
     Sandakerveien 116, NO-0402 Oslo, Norway

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