I would not have joined the task force list had I known AMIA's intentions were to create a closed forum after openly inviting people to participate in a task force which in some way contributed to this outcome.

Standing on the outside it appears that AMIA is flying the open source banner to attract membership in a manner which is divisive to the global community...and works against the need for broader more serious collaboration. The fact that your working group has no proactive mechanism to communicate externally reinforces this.

Joseph




Tim Cook wrote:
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 06:23, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:

Tim,

How did I manage to be included on this list when the AMIA list is closed to non-AMIA members.


The Task Force List which you are on was opened to everyone during it's
inception as an exploratory phase.  I was not a member of the AMIA task
force but joined just as you did as an AMIA non-member. Though this list
is not in regular use I suppose it is an open source mailing list that
is open to the public sponsored by AMIA. But I will also say that it is
obviously not needed since there is no regular posting on it by AMIA
members or non-members.  As stated before, the openhealth list provides
that service already.


..which is BTW rather ironic given the focus of the working group?


Not really.  The Working Group is for AMIA members only.  The mailing
list is the communications channel for that WG. Just because the WG
supports and promotes open source in healthcare does not mean that it
must also open it's membership and/or mailing list to the public.  This
is not any different from the OSHCA membership and mailing list being
closed to those that did not subscribe to and abide by the Charter.  It
is simply an AMIA membership requirement to pay the fees as appropriate.


Will the AMIA group ever communicate publically about its activities


Many of the members do communicate publicly about their activities now. I will leave it up to them to disclose their association with AMIA. As
a WG we do communicate within AMIA to the broader membership regarding
the WG activities. This is one of the primary goals of the WG. The
other goals are to build communication bridges to the broader health
informatics communities and to the open source communities. The WG isn't
mandated to support any specific projects but will pursue studies and
other efforts that produce information regarding the benefits of using
open source in healthcare. These will all be public.



or is it the "Dead Sea Scroll Society" of open source in health?


<vbs> and I thought you knew me better than that.


The OSWG is relatively new and MedInfo2004
(http://www.medinfo2004.org)is the official "Inaugural Presentation". There will also be a combined business meeting with the IMIA OSWG at
MedInfo. See the LinuxMedNews report from
April:http://www.linuxmednews.com/linuxmednews/1081765485/index_html


I hope to see you all there. It would be great to see more of the
openhealth list members join AMIA and the OSWG.


Cheers,




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