I haven't used python very much, but I don't see the problem with Java that
people are talking about.  Switching to different J2EE servers has nothing
to do with Java itself, but with different environments that these systems
provide (perhaps a lack of sufficient standardization in J2EE?).  

We've been using Java for 9 years and do not find any tedious debugging process
even in fairly complex application environments.   The fairly rigorous type
checking in Java usually means that it runs correctly after compilation.  

Earlier versions of Java presented some problems, but with later releases, the
we have found a quite stable and easy to use development environment.  I'm not
sure how much easier it could be with Python, particularly since the type 
checking
isn't nearly as rigorous.

Dave
> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Horst Herb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, Nov-9-2004 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenHRE software available
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:16, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > > Dare I repeat the old adage? Java: write once, debug everywhere.
> >
> > Write once is still the truth. Progress, bad programming (eg not 
> being
> > binary compatible in new releases) and not keeping up-to-date Âwith
> > dependencies as a programmer results in debug everywhere (this aside
> > from finding bugs)
> 
> I must say I have found programming Nirvana in Python - even the most 
> complex 
> server application / web services can be written in maybe a third of 
> the time 
> it takes in Java, and most code runs first time after writing without 
> even 
> needing to go through a tedious debugging process.
> 
> Yes, there is a small performance penalty. But that's more than made up 
> in the 
> form of saved man hours and robustness.
> 
> And, as opposed to Java, Python truly runs everywhere after writing it 
> once. 
> Close to zero portability problems, as long as no GUI involved.
> 
> Seriously: what can you do in Java that you can't in Python nowadays? 
> So why 
> then the extra effort it takes to do it in Java?
> 
> Horst
> 
> 
> 


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