Can anyone post the link again to the files section? Thanks! Richard
Will Ross wrote: > oops. now i posted the document in the openhealth files section. > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:01 PM, David Forslund wrote: > > >>As you probably noticed, images (and attachments) are stripped off by >>the mailer, so the diagram isn't visible. :-( >>What is the communication between components of ClearHealth or with >>other systems? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Dave >>Will Ross wrote: >> >>>Dave, >>> >>>Attached is a diagram which is part of a practice management software >>>replacement project I am managing for a group of rural ambulatory >>>clinics. This particular diagram maps the initial steps at one >>>clinic as Reception interacts with the current software ("HP") when a >>>patient arrives for an appointment. These high level procedural >>>diagrams completely map user interaction with the HealthPro software >>>at this facility. The user centered workflows are grouped into >>>procedural chunks to enable analysis and planning for migration to >>>the replacement practice management software, which is ClearHealth >>>from Uversa. Using these maps allows lead users in the key >>>operations areas (Scheduling, Billing, Medical Records, etc) to step >>>through the ClearHealth demo, creating a gap analysis to identify >>>software features that must be added to ClearHealth. I anticipate >>>implementation of ClearHealth at our first clinic site this summer. >>>I started this open source project in February 2004 and have been >>>fortunate to raise enough funds to aggressively and comprehensively >>>add the necessary features to the base ClearHealth product. All the >>>new code being paid with grant funds will be released under the >>>GPL. The project portal is located here: >>> >>> http://www.phoenixpm.org/ >>> >>>With best regards, >>> >>>[wr] >>> >>>- - - - - - - - >>> >>>On Mar 23, 2006, at 6:44 AM, David Forslund wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I wholeheartedly agree with you, Will! Do you have some example >>>>workflow diagrams that you have found useful? >>>> >>>>Dave >>>>Will Ross wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Philippe, >>>>> >>>>>Actually, I am still talking about Wayne's focus on the user. >>>>>As a >>>>>project manager I spend much of my time in a balancing act by >>>>>advocating for someone else's perspective. When I work with >>>>>with IT >>>>>developers and vendors, the most important missing voice is >>>>>generally >>>>>the perspective of the user. Workflow diagrams and use case >>>>>narratives are excellent tools to bring the user back into the >>>>>center >>>>>of the technology planning process, and they also provide users >>>>>with >>>>>a convenient way to redirect well intentioned but inappropriate >>>>>technology proposals. >>>>> >>>>>Until we have compelling informatics solutions that meet actual >>>>>clinical user needs, adoption of new IT proposals will be >>>>>minimal at >>>>>best, which describes the current state of EHR deployment in this >>>>>country (i.e., minimal). >>>>> >>>>>With best regards, >>>>> >>>>>[wr] >>>>> >>>>>- - - - - - - - >>>>> >>>>>On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Philippe AMELINE wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Any opinion on YAWL ( http://www.yawl.fit.qut.edu.au/ )? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tim C >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi guys, >>>>>> >>>>>>I very much like the way Wayne Wilson explicated the Big problem : >>>>>> >>>>>>"The very first thing to do is to build a believable (to >>>>>>doctors and >>>>>>patients) scenario for needing to get information from one system >>>>>>to the next, preferably in real time. IF you don't lead with that >>>>>>from a >>>>>>demonstrably practical point of view and just assume a generic >>>>>>need >>>>>>justifies all (interchange is good and will save the world, etc.), >>>>>>then I suggest that this interoperability demo is no different >>>>>>than a >>>>>>vendor plug fest designed to show managers why they should keep >>>>>>buying the >>>>>>same stuff they have already bought." >>>>>> >>>>>>And how funny it was to see that 6 posts after, all this vanished >>>>>>into a workflow engines comparison (very interesting, by the way). >>>>>> >>>>>> From my point of view, Wayne is very right to ask for a scenario >>>>>>"for >>>>>>needing to get information from one system to the next". And I >>>>>>think >>>>>>that such a scenario will be pretty much artificial if these >>>>>>systems are HIS since the genuine main reason to communicate is >>>>>>continuity of >>>>>>care, and that it is the very issue that hospitals don't address >>>>>>at all - >>>>>>and even rarely understand. >>>>>> >>>>>>This "generic need" that would justify a "need for communication" >>>>>>between HIS is a myth that became a religion when a sufficient >>>>>>number of people started to make a living by building standards >>>>>>for it. This is >>>>>>not an issue for the citizen. >>>>>> >>>>>>My 2 € ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>>Philippe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>[wr] >>>>> >>>>>- - - - - - - - >>>>> >>>>>will ross >>>>>project manager >>>>>mendocino informatics >>>>>216 west perkins street, suite 206 >>>>>ukiah, california 95482 usa >>>>>707.272.7255 [voice] >>>>>707.462.5015 [fax] >>>>>www.minformatics.com >>>>> >>>>>- - - - - - - - >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>[wr] >>> >>>- - - - - - - - >>> >>>will ross >>>project manager >>>mendocino informatics >>>216 west perkins street, suite 206 >>>ukiah, california 95482 usa >>>707.272.7255 [voice] >>>707.462.5015 [fax] >>>www.minformatics.com >>> >>>- - - - - - - - >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> >>>- - - - - - - - >>> >>> >>> >>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! 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