Like I said, Will, the protem committees have undermined themselves over
the years. No reflection on Molly. Hopefully things will progress for
you all now.
I'm not undermining Molly's work. If anything Minoru's lack of
initiative to create a stand alone organization and transfer the OSHCA
name is what has undermined organizational development of OSHCA.
I was in this group in 2000, talking about organizing OSHCA, but left
when I realized that formation of the group as a stand-alone entity was
taking longer than necessary. I had more productive things to worry about.
I cannot believe that there's no desire for a U.S. component! You all
are taking advantage of U.S. developed open source. We're creating more
open source on this continent than any other country!
I have enough open source software on my server to build the entire IT
infrastructure of a small country - including Biosurveillance! And if
3rd world countries aren't able to get to it it's probably because
groups like this haven't chosen to ally with U.S. based efforts.
Richard
Will Ross wrote:
> Richard,
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> As a newcomer to this list you have no basis for your observation.
> I've been participating since 2002, and I am a great admirer of
> Molly's efforts. Far from being undermined, I think Molly's Protem
> Committee is rather clearly the only game in town.
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> Please figure out how to be a bit more constructive. There is a lot
> of real work to be done.
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>>The protem committee taking four years to get this far is a pretty
>>clear
>>indication that they've undermined themselves.
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>>Richard
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>>Molly Cheah wrote:
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>>>Richard,
>>>I would appreciate it if you allow the protem committee to make the
>>>decisions on OSHCA since the community has given us the mandate to
>>>resurrect OSHCA. Otherwise I feel that you're undermining our
>>>efforts. I
>>>don't understand why suddenly you're in such a hurry. Like many
>>>others,
>>>Tim Cook, Bhaskar etc had expressed earlier there can be
>>>chapters/branches etc formed later.
>>>
>>>The discussions and sentiments expressed here will certainly be taken
>>>into consideration by the protem committee. I would like to appeal to
>>>you not to complicate the matter further otherwise your intentions
>>>may
>>>be misconstrued. Please let me complete my job and my
>>>responsibility to
>>>the community.
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>>>I did not think that my intention to update the community with
>>>information would lead to a kind of upstaging the protem committee's
>>>efforts. If you proceed to register OSHCA it will be tantamount to
>>>acting in bad faith, as I had been negotiating with Brian on
>>>behalf of
>>>the community.
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>>>Molly
>>>Richard Schilling wrote:
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>>>>Since OSCHA is an internationl body we can register
>>>>siultaneously, and
>>>>choose the base to be anywhere.
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>>>>Is the incorporation in Malaysia going to be doing business or just
>>>>representing FOSS industry interests? Depending on the answer to
>>>>that
>>>>here are our choices here in the U.S. that I can pursue now:
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>>>>Trade association — Definition.
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>>>> trade associations don't "do business" but exist to exert
>>>> influence on a market. This seems to me the best fit for OSCHA
>>>> if the organization does not intend to own things like
>>>> copyrighted software. Gets around the international
>>>> intellectual property issues on software for OSCHA
>>>> as well.
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>>>> "Trade association," as that term is used here
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>>>>Non-Profit Corporation - Definition.
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>>>> Non-Profit Corporations conduct business (e.g. provide products
>>>> and services) and can also have an influencing effect.
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>>>> A nonprofit corporation is an organization formed as a
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>>>> which no part of the organization's income is distributed to its
>>>> directors or officers. Nonprofits are formed pursuant to state
>>>> law, often under the Revised Model Non-Profit Corporation Act
>>>> (1986). A nonprofit can be a church or church association,
>>>> school, charity, medical provider, legal aid society, volunteer
>>>> service organization, professional association, research
>>>> institute, museum, or in some cases a sports association. Being
>>>> formed with the state as a nonprofit corporation does not
>>>> automatically provide an organization with tax-exempt status.
>>>> Nonprofits must apply for tax-exempt status at the federal and
>>>> sometimes at the state level.
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