Maybe I'm missing something. What is there to disagree with? Serious question, I can't even guess at the objection.
-DeWitt On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:43 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes, but people give Google data, often personal data, with every > interaction. That's very different than the OpenID site. > > I don't care enough to argue, so go for it if you feel strongly. > > --David > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:40 PM, DeWitt Clinton <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Did you know that "privacy" is the one link that appears on every page >> hosted by google? >> >> (Okay, not really, but it's pretty darn close.) >> >> There's a good reason for this, and it sets a very good example. So +1 to >> putting the link in the footer on openid.net. And on every site. >> >> -DeWitt >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:32 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Please no. There are very few parts of the site which people are >>> actually interacting with and where we accept data. I'm fine with this on >>> pages for things like the membership tool and wiki. >>> >>> --David >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Nat Sakimura <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> They look good. >>>> >>>> In addition, I feel that it is a good practice to put privacy policy >>>> link as a footer item in every page as well. >>>> In our case, right next to "Contact Us" in the footer. >>>> >>>> =nat >>>> >>>> >>>> (2010/01/28 10:00), John Ehrig wrote: >>>> >>>> Darin at Refresh mocked up a couple of options for the higher >>>> visibility location for the privacy policy (attached). Thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *John Ehrig >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:51 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] OIDF Privacy Policy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Actually, we already do have an approved and actively in use OIDF >>>> privacy policy (see the attached). A couple of issues: >>>> >>>> 1) It is buried in the membership portal and only viewable when you >>>> first sign up as a new member (which is why it took me so long to track it >>>> down) >>>> >>>> 2) It seems to be written specifically as a member privacy policy (which >>>> may not really be an issue if we are ok with it as is for that purpose) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I can immediately fix issue #1 by posting it in an easy to find/view >>>> page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Longer term, we can use this existing policy as a stating point if we >>>> want to improve or broaden it within the legal or privacy committee. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *John Bradley >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:00 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] OIDF Privacy Policy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that it would be fine to post redacted versions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I suspect that a page with the companies and individuals who have signed >>>> up for WG is probably more useful than the scanned agreements themselves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I made a IPR declaration three years ago when the OIDF was formed and >>>> the PAPE WG started. I don't recall anyone telling me it was going to be >>>> scanned and posted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like most people haven't thought about it in a while because there >>>> haven't been new WG. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If we are going to publish information that people give us we need to >>>> make that clear at the time of collection. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We may be violating privacy laws outside the US. I would prefer to >>>> make sure it is not an issue for the membership. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John B. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2010-01-27, at 2:47 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It would be fine to post digital images with the signatures and address >>>> information redacted – possibly by overlaying them with “Information on >>>> file >>>> with OIDF” or something of that sort. (Sort of how elevators often contain >>>> messages about the elevator license being on file at such-and-such place.) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]> >>>> ] *On Behalf Of *David Recordon >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:40 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] OIDF Privacy Policy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey John, >>>> >>>> I'm happy to have us reconsider the policy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The idea is to make it incredibly transparent around who has signed what >>>> (when it comes to IP). So far you're the first person in three years to >>>> say >>>> anything about it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Considering that there can be different versions of documents and some >>>> documents with options, scanning them as PDFs seemed like the easiest and >>>> most accurate method. 99% of the time it's also companies signing the >>>> agreements and using corporate addresses versus personal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If Global Inventures is able to manage these agreements and keep up to >>>> date online records, I'm less worried about each agreement >>>> being available online. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, they should be made available upon request. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --David >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:07 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> In the process of setting up the AX 1.1 WG a number of things have come >>>> to light. >>>> >>>> One is some confusion around who needs to submit what sort of agreement, >>>> Personal or Company. >>>> Perhaps our new Secretary can have a look at that. >>>> >>>> The more important one is that the OIDF has a practice of positing >>>> scanned documents publicly including peoples signature. >>>> >>>> A number of us don't think publicly posting our address info with a scan >>>> of our signature is such a good idea. >>>> >>>> I think everyone agrees that who has signed contribution agreements and >>>> what WG they apply to should be public. >>>> >>>> However there are ways to do that are less subject to identity theft and >>>> other issues. >>>> >>>> I would like to recommend that one of our committees (perhaps the legal >>>> one) or a sub committee. >>>> >>>> Review and publish the OIDF privacy policy and specifically if practices >>>> like posting members PII publicly are appropriate. >>>> >>>> The board can then consider those recommendations. >>>> >>>> In the interim I would like GlobalInventures to redact my signature from >>>> any and all of the IPR agreements they publish. >>>> >>>> I don't think we can be credible respecting peoples right to privacy on >>>> the internet if we don't do a credible job with our own members. >>>> >>>> There may be other privacy issues I am not currently aware of as well. >>>> >>>> I think being proactive about privacy can only increase participation >>>> from the community in general. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> John B. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing >>>> [email protected]http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nat Sakimura ([email protected]) >>>> Nomura Research Institute, Ltd. >>>> Tel:+81-3-6274-1412 Fax:+81-3-6274-1547 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > >
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