I have great respect for your work DeWitt, most importantly you were instrumental in changing the XRD format to a more Atom like like format, even though you were not entirely successful.
Even If I agree with all the rest of the arguments you made, are you sure we "MUST CALL IT OPENID CONNECT?" On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:10 PM, DeWitt Clinton <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds like this problem is relatively easy to resolve if there is a > consensus within the OIDF and the membership to pursue *both* Connect and > v.Next in parallel. If so, the technical committee's role is simply to make > both happen, and we can trust the committee, regardless of the chairs, to do > that job well and without conflict. > > In other words, if we agree on the goals, then I'm not worried about the > committees. (Or rather, if we have to stress about the committees, then we > got the big picture parts wrong to begin with.) > > So ... is there a consensus to do both v.Next and Connect? > > My own hope is the answer is "yes!", as Connect is going to get built > somewhere by someone no matter what -- there is too much need for it and too > much momentum behind it for it not to happen. If the OIDF helps make that > happen, then it could be called OpenID Connect. If not, then it will be > called something else. Seems pretty simple, really. > > And I would love to see smart people, like Dick and others, thinking about > v.Next, and thinking about revisiting the stack for the future. > > So I advocate yes to pursuing both paths in parallel. But I'd love to hear > that from the OIDF leadership as well. > > -DeWitt > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Santosh Rajan <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I am slightly out of tune regarding this thread. My apologies. However I >> have one related question. >> >> 1) I had heard about a year back that the original founders of OpenID, and >> if I understood this correctly includes David Recordon. >> 2) I also heard about a year back that the original founders had a veto >> rights on the decisions made on the OpenID board. >> 3) Can the board clarify whether I am right or wrong? >> >> And If I am right then my request to David recordon is that please do take >> a more democratic stand on these matters. >> Thank you so much >> Santosh Rajan >> >> >> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It seems that it was completely a misunderstanding. Given that the Board >>> wanted us to move forward quickly, I was just trying to help make that >>> happen. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:58 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> My recollection is that Dick said that being part of a decision to >>>> direct funds to himself would be a conflict, so he recused himself from the >>>> vote. >>>> >>>> I understood Scot's reply to be that resigning from the board/committee >>>> was not required. That the bylaws contained other mechanisms to deal with >>>> such a conflict. >>>> >>>> I am assuming that the conflict or lack there of will be dealt with as >>>> part of the contract/SOW process. >>>> >>>> If there is no contract/SOW there is no conflict. >>>> >>>> If there is a issue with Dick remaining chair I expect the director to >>>> inform the Committee and a new election to occur in a democratic fashion. >>>> >>>> The Committee can also decide to replace the chair at any time >>>> independent of conflict recommendations from Council/ED. >>>> >>>> So I did consider your note a touch over eager. I do understand that >>>> it was perhaps partially motivated by conversations I am unaware of. >>>> >>>> John B. >>>> >>>> On 2010-05-20, at 6:40 AM, David Recordon wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry, when I spoke with Don, Brian, and Scott after the meeting they >>>> were all under the impression that this was the case. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Dick Hardt <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I stated I had a conflict as chair of the technical committee to direct >>>>> funds to myself from the technical committee budget. I did not state that >>>>> I >>>>> was stepping down as chair of the tech committee, nor did anyone suggest >>>>> that I should. >>>>> >>>>> My understanding is that the technical committee was to review the >>>>> statement of work. I predict that continuing on as chair of the technical >>>>> committee would be beneficial in performing the work. >>>>> >>>>> I'm disappointed that you did not discuss your proposed path before >>>>> sending out this email. >>>>> >>>>> I will send out a draft SOW to the Tech Comm and schedule a call to >>>>> discuss soon. >>>>> >>>>> -- Dick >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-05-19, at 11:01 PM, David Recordon wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Today the Board passed a resolution directing the Executive Director, >>>>> Chair, Technical Committee, and outside council to explore a contracting >>>>> relationship with Dick Hardt to move the v.Next work forward. Dick brought >>>>> up how there could be a conflict during this process given that he is the >>>>> chair of the Technical Committee. So for the time being I'll take on the >>>>> chair role with Joseph Smarr (who wasn't at the meeting but I spoke to a >>>>> few >>>>> hours ago) taking on the co-chair role. >>>>> > >>>>> > Technical Committee, expect a followup email around starting to pull >>>>> together a set of deliverables and timeline over the next week. The goal, >>>>> as >>>>> I understand it, is to either have a contract in place or a determination >>>>> that it is unfeasible by the end of the this month. >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks, >>>>> > --David >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://hi.im/santosh >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > -- http://hi.im/santosh
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