I know that a number of people actively contributing to European federations, 
such as NORDUnet, have joined the working group, at Roland's suggestion, to 
participate in the discussions.  If there are others who you think are not 
members and should be, please invite them to join.  Participation in OpenID 
working groups is free.  OpenID working groups operate in public, so the 
conversation is hardly "buried".

Being in an OpenID working group means that the specification will be freely 
available to all to implement, with contributors all making a patent promise.  
Bringing the patent promises into effect is the primary point of the current 
vote at https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/146.  I encourage everyone 
who's interested in OpenID Connect Federation to participate in the IPR vote.

                                Best wishes,
                                -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Schwartz <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:51 AM
To: Mike Jones <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID Connect 
Federation Spec


Ok, but I think discussion of this spec should be more comprehensive. It would 
help if the discussion was more public so we could get a quorum of interested 
parties. As the conversation is buried in the OpenID Connect WG meetings, it's 
hard to get the right people involved, and has the result of reducing 
participation.

- Mike


------------------------
Michael Schwartz
Gluu
Founder / CEO
[email protected]
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nynymike/

On 2018-07-17 09:28, Mike Jones wrote:
> Mike - your statement that "The effort to reach consensus was 
> NEGLIGIBLE to zero" is incorrect.  Indeed, the editors acknowledged 
> your and Filip's comments in their reply 
> http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20180611
> /006794.html and agreed to address them in the next revision.  That 
> will happen after the current vote to grant IPR protections to 
> implementers of the specification concludes.  The purpose of this vote 
> is described in the reply 
> http://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/Week-of-Mon-20180611
> /006795.html, and indeed, in the public blog post about the IPR review 
> http://openid.net/2018/06/08/public-review-period-for-openid-connect-federation-specification-started/.
> 
> Thank you again for taking the time to review the specification.
> 
>                               -- Mike
> 
> P.S.  A vote against Implementer's Draft status essentially boils down 
> to "I do not want developers to have IPR protections when implementing 
> this draft".
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: board <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike 
> Schwartz
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [OpenID board] Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID 
> Connect Federation Spec
> 
> Gluu OBJECTS to the approval of the OpenID Federation spec. While we 
> like the direction of the work, NONE of our comments have been either 
> addressed or mitigated. The effort to reach consensus was NEGLIGIBLE 
> to zero.
> 
> - Mike
> 
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