David,

PoCo seems to be only for contacts. Attributes are not just contacts but bunch of other things as well.

Even within the "contacts", it is missing out things like phonetics (e.g., furigana), sort order, etc.
It does not seem to have had a lot of international exposure.

Also, by just briefly scanning, I can point out that current proposal does not have email classes like MMS/SMS/mobile phone etc. which are very commonly asked attribute in Japan. Many sites refuses to provide service without it. I bet there are other things from European point of view etc.

IMHO, we should define those attribute URL in an Open Forum with a clear process and a lot of international participation.

=nat

(2009/12/09 11:56), David Recordon wrote:
Hey Nat,
I guess I'm wondering what is missing from the PoCo schema that we've
seen the need for within the OpenID ecosystem?  It seems really rich
already.

I don't think that IPR is an issue around a schema, but would also be
happy to have Facebook do an OWF agreement if it was deemed necessary.
  That said, we should focus on making sure this solves the problem of
profile data adoption first! :)

--David

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Nat Sakimura<[email protected]>  wrote:
Looks nice.
What is the process for adding more?
I would like to add more like phonetic field for names and addresses.
(In Japanese, we call them "furigana". Without them, we do not know
  how to read in many cases nor the sort order.)
Also, I feel that portablecontacts.net is a bit long...
Is portablecontacts only for the contact data or trying to be a general
schema repository like axschema? Is there any consensus in which direction
we should head to?
What is the IPR implication?
=nat
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Chris Messina<[email protected]>
wrote:
Done.
https://portablecontacts.pbworks.com/schema

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Joseph Smarr<[email protected]>  wrote:
Looks great to me, the only thing missing is sub-fields of complex fields
like name, address, organization, and account. I would suggest using another
level of slashes, e.g.
http://portablecontacts.net/ns/1.0/address/streetAddress and
http://portablecontacts.net/ns/1.0/name/familyName and so on.

Chris-can you take a stab at adding those missing sub-fields? Then I
think we'd be good to go.

Thanks, js
________________________________
From: Chris Messina [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:40 PM
To: David Recordon
Cc: SitG Admin; [email protected]; Joseph Smarr
Subject: Re: specs Digest, Vol 40, Issue 11

I've taken a crack at URLizing these attributes for use in Attribute
Exchange:
https://portablecontacts.pbworks.com/schema
If there are comments or feedback for improving this, let me know. I'm an
XML noob.
Chris

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM, David Recordon<[email protected]>
wrote:
It's missing out on the idea of having a schema which can cross
contexts.  Right now each schema – with the exception of AXSchema.org
– has no concept of namespaces and stands alone.  We've always wanted
a schema which uses URLs to identify each element, but there haven't
been any.  Maybe Portable Contacts wants to take this on since it is
also used by OpenSocial?

--David

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Chris Messina<[email protected]>
wrote:
I did this in June:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pSGbbhtwI4kN_nJ1GXeQ7Qg&output=html
I just wish someone would actually use it!
Chris

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM, SitG Admin
<[email protected]>
wrote:
I'm specifically pointing out that AXSchema reinvents vcard and a
host of
other profile formats, which adds yet another burden for developers
to map
other schema, like Portable Contacts, to the AXSchema.
Could these other profile formats be mapped, on an alias, to a set of
AXScheme that collectively mirror each format? As in, "vcard" alias
maps to
a set of AXSchema that actually just mirror 'vcard' format.

-Shade


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