Should we add “Enabling discovery of public keys” to the scope?
-- Mike
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nat
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:18 PM
To: Allen Tom
Cc: openid-specs
Subject: Re: 2nd Draft of the OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Charter
Hi Allen,
Some Public Keys are public, so I think it can be advertised on the XRD. (Does
not have to be profiled as Webfinger, I guess.)
I was referring to all of OP, RP, and User's public key.
=nat @ Tokyo via iPhone
On 2010/04/20, at 7:30, Allen Tom
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Nat -
Is this the user’s public key? If so, the user would probably need to
authenticate first, and the public key could be returned as an attribute via AX.
Alternatively, if the public key is considered to be public information, then
it could be shared via Webfinger (again, the RP needs to know who the user is
already).
Another potential mechanism would be to use the new XAuth service that was
announced today.
Regarding the normalization of identifiers – can you give an example use case
that illustrates the problem?
Thanks
Allen
On 4/19/10 3:15 PM, "Nat" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks Tom.
I think it is included in the attributes, but public key info may qualify as a
special item just like logo.
BTW, is normalization of identifiers included in the discovery or elsewhere?
=nat @ Tokyo via iPhone
On 2010/04/20, at 7:00, Allen Tom
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,
Mike Jones and I have revised the proposed charter for the OpenID v.Next
Discovery Working Group. The main change is that the infamous NASCAR problem
is within scope. There are many potential ways that we can try to solve (or
optimize) the NASCAR, including client/browser support, as well as server-side
approaches. The text “enable potential mechanisms for discovering
context-relevant OpenID providers” means that addressing the NASCAR issue is
within the scope of the Working Group.
The other change was to correct a typo in the 3rd bullet point: enable
discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and RPs, including, but not
limited to visual logos and human-readable site names. The previous version of
the draft omitted the “not”
Here’s the current draft of the charter:
(a) Charter.
(i) WG name: OpenID v.Next Discovery.
(ii) Purpose: Produce a discovery specification or family of
discovery specifications for OpenID v.Next that address the limitations and
drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 discovery facilities that limit OpenID’s
applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security. Specific goals are:
• enable discovery for OpenID identifiers, including those utilizing
e-mail address syntax and those that are URLs,
• enable discovery of features supported by OpenID v.Next OpenID Providers
and Relying Parties,
• enable discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and RPs,
including, but not limited to visual logos and human-readable site names,
• enable discovery supporting a spectrum of clients, including passive
clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP
functionality,
• enable discovery supporting authentication to and use of attributes by
non-browser applications,
• enable potential mechanisms for discovering context-relevant OpenID
providers,
• seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID v.Next
specifications.
Compatibility with OpenID 2.0 is an explicit non-goal for this
work.
(iii) Scope: Produce a next generation OpenID discovery
specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.
(iv) Proposed List of Specifications: OpenID v.Next Discovery
and possibly related specifications.
(v) Anticipated audience or users of the work: Implementers of
OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications
utilizing OpenID.
(vi) Language in which the WG will conduct business: English.
(vii) Method of work: E-mail discussions on the working group
mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the
Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.
(viii) Basis for determining when the work of the WG is
completed: Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus
that the resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills
the working group goals. Additional proposed changes beyond that initial
consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease
consensus within the working group. The work will be completed once it is
apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent with
the purpose and scope.
(b) Background Information.
(i) Related work being done in other WGs or organizations:
OpenID Authentication 2.0 and related specifications, including Yadis 1.0.
OAuth and OAuth WRAP. XRDS, XRD, and WebFinger.
(ii) Proposers:
Allen Tom, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> , Yahoo! (co-chair)
Michael B. Jones, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> , Microsoft (co-chair)
John Bradley, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> , independent
Additional proposers to be added here
(iii) Anticipated Contributions: None.
<OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Charter.doc>
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