I think identifier normalization rules need to be in scope.

Otherwise it will lead to interop issues.  

John B.
On 2010-04-19, at 6:15 PM, Nat wrote:

> Thanks Tom. 
> 
> I think it is included in the attributes, but public key info may qualify as 
> a special item just like logo. 
> 
> BTW, is normalization of identifiers included in the discovery or elsewhere? 
> 
> =nat @ Tokyo via iPhone
> 
> On 2010/04/20, at 7:00, Allen Tom <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Mike Jones and I have revised the proposed charter for the OpenID v.Next 
>> Discovery Working Group.  The main change is that the infamous NASCAR 
>> problem is within scope. There are many potential ways that we can try to 
>> solve (or optimize) the NASCAR, including client/browser support, as well as 
>> server-side approaches. The text “enable potential mechanisms for 
>> discovering context-relevant OpenID providers” means that addressing the 
>> NASCAR issue is within the scope of the Working Group.
>> 
>> The other change was to correct a typo in the 3rd bullet point: enable 
>> discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and RPs, including, but not 
>> limited to visual logos and human-readable site names. The previous version 
>> of the draft omitted the “not”
>> 
>> Here’s the current draft of the charter:
>> 
>> (a)  Charter.
>> (i)                  WG name:  OpenID v.Next Discovery.
>> (ii)                  Purpose:  Produce a discovery specification or family 
>> of discovery specifications for OpenID v.Next that address the limitations 
>> and drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 discovery facilities that limit 
>> OpenID’s applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security.  
>> Specific goals are:
>> ·      enable discovery for OpenID identifiers, including those utilizing 
>> e-mail address syntax and those that are URLs,
>> 
>> ·      enable discovery of features supported by OpenID v.Next OpenID 
>> Providers and Relying Parties,
>> 
>> ·      enable discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and RPs, 
>> including, but not limited to visual logos and human-readable site names,
>> 
>> ·      enable discovery supporting a spectrum of clients, including passive 
>> clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP 
>> functionality,
>> 
>> ·      enable discovery supporting authentication to and use of attributes 
>> by non-browser applications,
>> 
>> ·      enable potential mechanisms for discovering context-relevant OpenID 
>> providers,
>> 
>> ·      seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID v.Next 
>> specifications.
>> 
>>               Compatibility with OpenID 2.0 is an explicit non-goal for this 
>> work.
>> (iii)                  Scope:  Produce a next generation OpenID discovery 
>> specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.
>> (iv)                  Proposed List of Specifications:  OpenID v.Next 
>> Discovery and possibly related specifications.
>> (v)                  Anticipated audience or users of the work: Implementers 
>> of OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser 
>> applications utilizing OpenID.
>> (vi)                  Language in which the WG will conduct business:  
>> English.
>> (vii)                  Method of work:  E-mail discussions on the working 
>> group mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face 
>> meetings at the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.
>> (viii)                  Basis for determining when the work of the WG is 
>> completed:  Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a 
>> consensus that the resulting protocol specification or family of 
>> specifications fulfills the working group goals.  Additional proposed 
>> changes beyond that initial consensus will be evaluated on the basis of 
>> whether they increase or decrease consensus within the working group.  The 
>> work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the 
>> draft has been achieved, consistent with the purpose and scope.
>> (b)  Background Information.
>> (i)                  Related work being done in other WGs or organizations:  
>> OpenID Authentication 2.0 and related specifications, including Yadis 1.0.  
>> OAuth and OAuth WRAP.  XRDS, XRD, and WebFinger.
>> (ii)                  Proposers: 
>> Allen Tom, [email protected], Yahoo! (co-chair)
>> Michael B. Jones, [email protected], Microsoft (co-chair)
>> John Bradley, [email protected], independent
>> Additional proposers to be added here
>> (iii)                  Anticipated Contributions:  None.
>>  
>> <OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Charter.doc>
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