OK, thanks for the clarification. John B. On 2010-05-16, at 5:54 PM, David Recordon wrote:
> No, I'm not suggesting the work occur within the OWF. It doesn't even have > the means to support doing so. Rather that the OpenID Foundation offer the > Open Web Foundation agreement as one of the IPR policies. > > --David > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote: > I was attempting to support your ongoing commitment to open standards. > > I do however think that doing the spec in the OWF rather than the OIDF will > need to be discussed, especially if that spec will be called openID. > > If that happens then the OIDF would need to find a new mission or perhaps be > wound down and the IPR transferred out. > > Maintaining openID 2.0 is not something that justifies running a foundation > for if things pass it by. > > I know you were one of the founders of the OIDF and involved in structuring > the IPR. > > Are you saying that the OIDF is not your first choice for new work? > > John B. > > > On 2010-05-16, at 12:01 PM, David Recordon wrote: > >> I included in the FAQ that I intend to submit this as a Working Group if the >> community thinks that would be a useful thing to do. >> >> From an IPR perspective the OpenID Foundation's policy is arcane at this >> point and I'd rather see us just adopt the Open Web Foundation's policy. I >> think you can look at Facebook's track record around participating though; >> we've signed an Open Web Foundation agreement for OAuth WRAP, are >> participating under the IETF's IPR policy for OAuth 2.0, and released the >> Open Graph Protocol under the Open Web Foundation agreement from day one. >> >> Some of the Googlers have provided feedback and contributed ideas to this >> proposal over the past few days. I don't know if they had a chance to do a >> really deep dive considering it's existed for under a week. In general we >> plan to combine efforts at IIW. >> >> --David >> >> >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> David has presented a proposal for discussion. >> >> It is not an openID spec, it is not part of a WG or covered under openID IPR. >> >> I hope the appropriate work groups are chartered quickly so that this and >> other contributions can be accepted for consideration. >> >> I am assuming David and Facebook intend to contribute this to the OIDF WG >> process. >> >> I commend David for the work he has put in on this. I know the people at >> Google have been working on a similar proposal. >> >> The Artifact Binding for openID 2.0 WG is chartered and has produced several >> drafts. We are keeping a close eye on these proposals but can't abandon >> openID 2.0 compatibility. >> >> I have been on a plane from Santiago to LA since David released his >> discussion document. Once I get to SF tonight I look forward to having more >> time to review it, before IIW starts tomorrow. >> >> We still have a ways to go before we have a final openID vNext spec. >> >> John B. >> >> On 2010-05-16, at 10:40 AM, Santosh Rajan wrote: >> >>> After the release of the so called OpenIDConnect Spec in the last few hours >>> my brains have been working overtime about it. >>> Not that my brains are any better than the brains that have been working >>> around here. Forgive me for expressing my views in spite of having lesser >>> intelligence than most people around here. >>> >>> The biggest problem i see with Open ID is "leadership". Let me explain >>> this. And this is my personal opinion, so there is nothing wrong if you >>> think i am entirely wrong. >>> >>> Before I heard of OpenID i heard of other "Open" stuff like >>> Linux - Linus Torvalds >>> jQuery - John Resig etc etc >>> >>> OpenId has no equivalent figure. There is no one to lead and guide the >>> "Identity" community. And that is why I think the Identity community is at >>> such a loss today. In spite of your IIW etc etc. >>> >>> I honestly think the "Identity" problem could have been solved if we had a >>> single strong leader respected by everyone. Until then we will have the >>> suffer the jokes perpetuated on us by all the jokers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://hi.im/santosh >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> specs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> specs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs >> >> > >
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